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  1.    20 Jun 2016 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kbird View Post
    you could try the 12XXXX series Driver and see if it works better than the 13XXXX series drivers eg the Intel RST(e) v12.9.4.1000 WHQLis a recommended one , may not help ,but worth a try while you wait for answers at WinRaid. Use the Have disk method perhaps and just install the drivers , no RST software.
    I guess I might as well while I'm waiting a response from WinRaid. At the very least I'll have more information for them. Edit: I tried it. This time the reading of files completed. The time was about 1 min 20 sec. - maybe a tiny bit better than with the Windows driver, but within the ballpark. My next test will be to move the files off the SSD and to a SATA III HDD. Probably a meaningless test, but I'm going to try it anyway.

    Edit:
    The lack of problems with v12.9.4.1000 was a fluke. It hung up again so I've rolled back to the default Windows drive. Moving the files to the HDD was no solution. I killed the program after 2 minutes; it was less than 50% complete.
    Last edited by pokeefe0001; 20 Jun 2016 at 23:49.
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  2.    20 Jun 2016 #32
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    I only skimmed the thread so hope this isn't repeat information and might help

    1. I'd start by checking for a BIOS update for your computer
    2. Use the Intel Driver Update utility (google it). Reinstall chipset drivers and does it have anything to say about the storage driver?
    3. I saw someone already suggested DoubleDriver earlier
      • It will show you all the drivers and version numbers on your system
      • I saw you asked earlier. You can also use DoubleDriver to report all drivers on your backup image. Mount the image. In DD click Backup then select Scan Other System and point it to the Windows directory of the mounted image
      • If you tell DD to do the backup (and save it in folders), you get a folder for each device driver containing all the files in the driver package. (should you want to inspect the folder or search folders for driver file names)

    4. Also I haven't tried Driver Store Explorer on Win 10 yet to see that it works but will guess so. It should also give you a nice list of all "non-Inbox" drivers on your machine (i.e. all the drivers that didn't come on your installation media)
    5. p.p.s You can also get a list (but not as nicely formatted) of non-Inbox drivers but entering pnputil -e from a command prompt

    Driver Store Explorer output
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  3.    20 Jun 2016 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post
    [*]I'd start by checking for a BIOS update for your computer
    Updating BIOS scares the bejeebers out of me. I'll check, but I sure hope I find nothing. And even if the problem with the drivers is related to a BIOS issue, the original performance problem can't be. This problem started with a clean reinstall of Win10. It didn't exist when I was running a dirty Win10. (Other problems, but not this one.)
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post
    [*]Use the Intel Driver Update utility (google it). Reinstall chipset drivers and does it have anything to say about the storage driver?
    Hmm. This the first time I've seen anyone recommend the utility. I assumed it was just vendor hype.
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post
    [*]I saw someone already suggested DoubleDriver earlier
    I'll give it a try.
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  4.    21 Jun 2016 #34
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    I found from the WinRaid Forum that the best IRST driver for my Intel Series 7 motherboard is v13.1.0.1058. However, when I try to run the installer, I get an error saying it needs .NET Framework 4.5.

    Windows 10 has already installed .NET Framework 4.6 so do I really need to install .NET Framework 4.5 just to install this driver? I also found there is .NET Framework 4.5.1 & 4.5.2 so which is needed?
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  5.    21 Jun 2016 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post
    1. I'd start by checking for a BIOS update for your computer
    It's very out of date. The could be causing problems with the drivers I tried. It's probably not the cause of the performance problem since it cropped up with the clean reinstall of Win10. No performance problem with the update-in-place version. (Just lots of stability problems.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post

    2. Use the Intel Driver Update utility (google it). Reinstall chipset drivers and does it have anything to say about the storage driver?
    I downloaded and ran it. No (disk) driver update required - just a change to an .inf file. (It did find a graphics driver but I doubt that's causing the perfomance problem.)

    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerGeek View Post

    3. I saw someone already suggested DoubleDriver earlier...
    DoubleDriver does a good job for my running system but can't process an Acronis backup (and I'm not terribly surprised). I can pull files out of that backup. Any idea how much DD needs to think it's looking at an offline Windows system drive?
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  6.    21 Jun 2016 #36

    Using WMI with powershell...
    Get-WmiObject Win32_PnPSignedDriver | select devicename, driverversion | Set-Content "$Env:USERPROFILE\Desktop\Drivers.txt"

    Edit: For those that do not read PS, It creates a text file on the desktop with a driver list.
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  7.    21 Jun 2016 #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Using WMI with powershell...
    Get-WmiObject Win32_PnPSignedDriver | select devicename, driverversion | Set-Content "$Env:USERPROFILE\Desktop\Drivers.txt"

    Edit: For those that do not read PS, It creates a text file on the desktop with a driver list.
    Thanks for that Superfly. It works great
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  8.    21 Jun 2016 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    I found from the WinRaid Forum that the best IRST driver for my Intel Series 7 motherboard is v13.1.0.1058. However, when I try to run the installer, I get an error saying it needs .NET Framework 4.5.

    Windows 10 has already installed .NET Framework 4.6 so do I really need to install .NET Framework 4.5 just to install this driver? I also found there is .NET Framework 4.5.1 & 4.5.2 so which is needed?

    Try installing just the Drivers manually , not the IRST software package, using the Device manager "Have Disk" method.
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  9.    21 Jun 2016 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeefe0001 View Post
    It's very out of date. The could be causing problems with the drivers I tried. It's probably not the cause of the performance problem since it cropped up with the clean reinstall of Win10. No performance problem with the update-in-place version. (Just lots of stability problems.)


    I downloaded and ran it. No (disk) driver update required - just a change to an .inf file. (It did find a graphics driver but I doubt that's causing the perfomance problem.)


    DoubleDriver does a good job for my running system but can't process an Acronis backup (and I'm not terribly surprised). I can pull files out of that backup. Any idea how much DD needs to think it's looking at an offline Windows system drive?

    The Bios also has an Intel ROM in it that for best performance/stability should be in the same series if possible, you can usually see at boot , if you have the splash screen disabled what the Intel Option Rom Bios is too , this is more important in Raid but can't hurt , and maybe good info for the WinRaid post too.

    It looks like your Bios has EZ Flash2 ,which is pretty easy to use from inside the bios with a USB key , I personally wouldn't trust a windows application to do a bios Upgrade. Not sure if that Board has USB Bois Flashback too? also very safe and easy to use with a USB key.

    Personally the Intel utility does not work well for me , but that maybe just me (X58) ? I find it is wrong or it can't even find any "Intel" in the Computer 1/2 the time . It choose the wrong Chipset INF for my X58 after my clean install a few weeks ago, when I ran it as a double Check for eg.
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  10.    21 Jun 2016 #40
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    DoubleDriver does a good job for my running system but can't process an Acronis backup (and I'm not terribly surprised). I can pull files out of that backup. Any idea how much DD needs to think it's looking at an offline Windows system drive?
    I have Acronis TI as well. DD works fine for me. DD only needs to be pointed to the Windows folder you want to scan
    > Did you mount the Windows partition to a drive letter?
    > Click Scan other system and browse the windows folder on the mounted partition
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