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  1.    18 Jun 2016 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    It is easy to fix the problem without re-install Windows and apps. If you wish, I can give you step by step instruction.
    Yessir, that would be very helpful.
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  2.    18 Jun 2016 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    The partition scheme from disk management is not standard Windows 10 and you are correct that the partition ID is set to 27 which is specific to DELL: an OEM and a Recovery partition containing the original factory image (set to 27). The reason is to allow user to recover the WinOS back to the original state using a function key. However, you've already upgrade to Windows 10, you probably won't need it, beside, you also had a backup copy on the 2nd HD.

    A normal Windows 10 partition scheme for MBR disk type is:
    1. 500MB System Reserved (set to 07) which contains BCD and WinRE.wim
    2. C drive.


    It is easy to fix the problem without re-install Windows and apps. If you wish, I can give you step by step instruction.

    (Red above) That is what I thought too , till last week , after a fresh install , WinRE.wim was not on the 500mb partition , nor was there a Recovery Folder on C: or in c:\windows\system32\recovery , so I followed a guide or two here and have a C:\recovery now after extracting Install.wim but nothing on the 500mb drive , just an empty recovery folder now.

    Edit : I have now followed Kyhi's post in your thread last week about this and moved the Recovery image to the 500mb partition, (partition 1) in my case

    reagentc /disable
    Reagentc /setreimage /path \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition1\Recovery\WindowsRE
    reagentc /enable

    reagentc /info

    does this look right? it's enabled but image location and index are empty though.

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    Kyhi's full post here:
    https://www.tenforums.com/installatio...tml#post700523
    Last edited by Kbird; 18 Jun 2016 at 17:42.
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  3.    18 Jun 2016 #23
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    (Red above) That is what I thought too , till last week , after a fresh install , WinRE.wim was not on the 500mb partition , nor was there a Recovery Folder on C: or in c:\windows\system32\recovery , so I followed a guide or two here and have a C:\recovery now after extracting Install.wim but nothing on the 500mb drive , just an empty recovery folder now.
    @Kbird
    Sorry but you are wrong. Because the 500MB System Reserved is hidden, it will appear empty so either you unhide it or use a Partition Manager to view the content of this partition. What you did above is redundant. See screen shot:
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  4.    18 Jun 2016 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    @Kbird
    Sorry but you are wrong. Because the 500MB System Reserved is hidden so either you unhide it or use a Partition Manager to view the content of this partition.
    @ David .....sorry didn't mean to hog your Thread.

    @ Topgun I do have MiniTool but actually I simply assigned the Partition with the Drive Letter B: then looked at it in Explorer, there was no Recovery Folder, just Boot , but I have now forced it onto B: (partition 1) using kyhi's instructions . I had previously followed another Tutorials Online (below) to extract wim.re after not finding it on my HD.

    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=587
    or
    https://www.winhelp.us/restore-windows-re.html
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  5.    18 Jun 2016 #25
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    @topgundcp,
    From what i see in all the previous DM screen prints for DavidOdden, the File System is blank for some partitions.
    It's not NTFS (or anything).
    I don't know if hidden / protected is a problem, until the partition is something readable ???

    Is that why DM can't help, and Windows (file) Explorer can't see this partition/data ?

    tyia
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  6.    18 Jun 2016 #26
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    I simply assigned the Partition with the Drive Letter B: then looked at it in Explorer
    This is not enough because the Recovery folder is hidden, you'd need to set the folder option to show "Hidden files" and also uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" or use Mini Tool Partition to explore then you'll see everything.
    @DavidE
    Yes, this is not standard as I said above. The partition is set to "OEM" and "Recovery". Use diskpart to explore those partitions instead. HTH
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  7.    18 Jun 2016 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    .....
    It is easy to fix the problem without re-install Windows and apps. If you wish, I can give you step by step instruction.
    Thanks topgun,

    I would appreciate it if you took lead on this. I offered the Clean install because I'm having problems focusing. This is the sort of thing you need to pay attention to detail - not difficult just getting the right partitions on the right drive.

    DavidOdden, you're in good hands with topgun.

    I'll watch from the sidelines

    Bill
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  8.    18 Jun 2016 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    This is not enough because the Recovery folder is hidden, you'd need to set the folder option to show "Hidden files" and also uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" or use Mini Tool Partition to explore then you'll see everything.
    @DavidE
    Yes, this is not standard as I said above. The partition is set to "OEM" and "Recovery". Use diskpart to explore those partitions instead. HTH
    Yes, I guess I didn't explain enough , sorry, .....I always have those two options on in Windows , always have for many years

    @ DO.....Sorry DavidOdden , I'll let Topgun get back to helping you , I was just hoping for some insight into why the Recovery environment wasn't being setup properly on a Clean install..
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  9.    23 Jun 2016 #29
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    Sorry not to get back to you sooner.
    Here's the steps:
    1. First, run Admin command and set your disk 1 inactive:
      diskpart
      select disk 1
      select partition 2
      inactive
      exit
    2. Download: BootMBR_Only-00-00.zip - Google Drive , unzip and save it to an external HD. Filename is: MBR_Template.mrimg
    3. Download: Rescue.V6.1.1311.iso - Google Drive and use: Rufus - Create bootable USBto create a bootable USB
    4. Boot up your PC with the USB and follow the Video below.
      NOTE: I have many disks in my PC the disk number is different from your PC


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  10.    23 Jun 2016 #30
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    Topgun, thanks. I take it the diskpart stuff is to resolve the problem of two active partitions. And the second is resizing drive 1 by getting rid of the Dell recovery partition? Unfortunately, I can't make out the details in the video (bad eyes).
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