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  1.    09 Jun 2016 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggidon View Post
    Good. Thanks for the helpful replies guys. This has been very helpful. If there are others who want to wade in with more comments, please do.
    You may be over-thinking this a bit?

    I'll not have Diskeeper kick in on the SSD but let Windows TRIM do its thing.
    That sounds like the consensus for your new SSD:

    defrag = NO
    TRIM = yes.

    (And even if it were a HDD (aka "spinner"), I would not use an outdated 3rd-party application from 2012 for defragmenting. Ever since Vista, or at least 7, the built-in Windows defragmenter is probably more than adequate for defragmenting a spinner. There are 3rd-party products out there, but it doesn't seem wise to use an old, outdated application for such an important task on a modern OS or modern hardware. JMHO)

    Cheers,
    MM
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  2.    09 Jun 2016 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggidon View Post
    Thank you for the Interesting reply Layback Bear. I have a Samsgung 850 EV0 250GB sitting here on my desk not installed yet. But I can tell it's just raring to go. Being ignorant to this cute little tyke, I'm not sure any software comes with it so will allow TRIM to do its thing. Onions, pardon me, I mean opinions abound around but I've appreciated the advice you & the others have given. I think I'm going to just layback & give heed.
    Samsung has their own app called SAMSUNG MAGICIAN For giving you information and spec's for your SSD. Plus monitors its updates. Here is the link . Under Magician Software ver# 4.9.7 17.8MB
    http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...oad/tools.html
    Take care, Mike.
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  3.    09 Jun 2016 #23
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    As to Diskeeper, I'm being told it's the latest version. Do you know if it has gone out of business?
    As to the software in the Samsung SSD (and having not read the link yet) does the Samsung Magician replace TRIM?
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  4.    09 Jun 2016 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggidon View Post
    As to Diskeeper, I'm being told it's the latest version. Do you know if it has gone out of business?
    As to the software in the Samsung SSD (and having not read the link yet) does the Samsung Magician replace TRIM?
    It's hard to say what brand SSD you have on your laptop so I don't think that Magician will be of any use. As for Diskeeper.. I wouldn't use it since I don't think you really don't need it. All you really need to do to maintain an SSD is run the Trim command that's been pointed out to you and you will be all set.

    Jeff
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  5.    09 Jun 2016 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggidon View Post
    As to Diskeeper, I'm being told it's the latest version. Do you know if it has gone out of business?
    A quick Google search turns up:
    Diskeeper is a defragmentation program designed for Microsoft Windows. It was developed by Executive Software International, Inc., which later changed its name to Diskeeper Corporation, and is now called Condusiv Technologies. Wikipedia


    But it doesn't matter, as everyone concurs that one should NOT use such a program to optimize or defragment a SSD.

    Cheers, MM
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  6.    09 Jun 2016 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    It's hard to say what brand SSD you have on your laptop so I don't think that Magician will be of any use.
    Somewhere, way back in this thread, I think the OP did mention that it is a Samsung SSD (it's a new, replacement drive, I think).

    As for Diskeeper.. I wouldn't use it since I don't think you really don't need it. All you really need to do to maintain an SSD is run the Trim command that's been pointed out to you and you will be all set.

    Jeff
    Exactly.

    MM
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  7.    09 Jun 2016 #27
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    I set up windows defrag to trim my SSD monthly, is that good for my SSD?
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  8.    09 Jun 2016 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    It's hard to say what brand SSD you have on your laptop so I don't think that Magician will be of any use. As for Diskeeper.. I wouldn't use it since I don't think you really don't need it. All you really need to do to maintain an SSD is run the Trim command that's been pointed out to you and you will be all set.

    Jeff
    If you read his post #20 Jeff you would have seen him post this. "I have a Samsgung 850 EV0 250GB sitting here on my desk "
    Or I would NOT have posted the link to Samsung Magician for him.
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  9.    09 Jun 2016 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggidon View Post
    As to Diskeeper, I'm being told it's the latest version. Do you know if it has gone out of business?
    As to the software in the Samsung SSD (and having not read the link yet) does the Samsung Magician replace TRIM?
    I have 3 Samsungs installed on my 2 computers, along with Samsung Magician . Windows will still use the trim command as long as you allow Windows too. Weekly or monthly which ever you prefer.

    I would NOT use Diskeeper at all on any SSD ...but its your choice.
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  10.    09 Jun 2016 #30

    I agree with whats been said. Never run defrag on an SSD. The defrag tool that comes with Windows will recognise if you have SSDs and will change to say optimise instead of defrag and will just run the trim command for you.

    If you want to use third party software, make sure that they can differentiate between an SSD and a hard drive. If they dont label a drive or just call it an HD then dont use the program.

    I've been running the internal defrag program to optmise my 3 SSDs without issue.
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