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  1.    25 Apr 2016 #1
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 10 X64

    Defragmentation of SSD's


    hey guys,

    since Build 14295 my SSD's defrag starts automatically .

    The new Build , right now 14328 changes the settings and i have to reset this manually, to prevent this to happen.

    Am I the only one here?

    Jut to let you know


    Jeff
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  2.    25 Apr 2016 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Posts : 25,784
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046

    Hello Jeff,

    Windows 10 would TRIM a SSD by default instead of defrag.

    Optimize and Defrag Drives in Windows 10

    It may be the optimization schedule set to automatically run doing this.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...dows-10-a.html
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  3.    26 Apr 2016 #3
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 10 X64
    Thread Starter

    thanks Shawn,

    But my pc says otherwise. After each Build every drive is set to be defragged...

    I will with the next Build take a prtscrn to show.

    So it is not totally clear for me.

    But thanks, appreciate you knowledge here on the board ALWAYS.

    F
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  4.    26 Apr 2016 #4
    Join Date : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046

    In that case, use the tutorial below to make sure TRIM is enabled for SSDs to see if that may help.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html
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  5.    27 Apr 2016 #5
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,635
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    thanks Shawn,

    But my pc says otherwise. After each Build every drive is set to be defragged...

    I will with the next Build take a prtscrn to show.

    So it is not totally clear for me.

    But thanks, appreciate you knowledge here on the board ALWAYS.

    F
    Insiders builds always resets some options like that so you have to set them up as you want every time.
    Are you sure it's defragmenting or it says "Optimizing" ? Is SATA port set to AHCI mode. Trim usually doesn't work in IDE (Legacy) mode.
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  6.    27 Apr 2016 #6

    Hi there.

    Whatever the PC says - defrag is impossible on an SSD -- the physics are different. If you have any settings anywhere to allow defrag just switch them off.

    On an HDD you get problems because of physical arm movement to retrieve bits of the file and that can cause extra reads which take longer because it takes a finite time to for the heads to come under the reading movement of the HDD (physical rotation).

    An SSD has no moving parts and effectively it's one gigantic storage array so reading different "areas" of the SSD makes no difference. Like on a chess board it makes no difference if the SSD reads a1 or g7. Same time.

    I doubt if on the latest SSD's it's even worth worrying about TRIM either. SSD's are so much faster than HDD's I really wouldn't bother.

    IMO the best way to reset an SSD (if you really have to) is to back it up via an imaging program, re-format and then restore. This should re-order all the long file chains (if any) but IMO you wouldn't notice the difference anyway.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7.    27 Apr 2016 #7
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    Windows 10 Home

    It only optimizes the SSD, whatever that means. I set it to once a month.
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  8.    27 Apr 2016 #8

    I'm with Jimbo on this one. Attempting to defrag an SSD actually harms it. Some software in a Windows OS permits it, but you still shouldn't do it.
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  9.    28 Apr 2016 #9
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 403
    Windows 10 X64
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hello Jeff,

    Windows 10 would TRIM a SSD by default instead of defrag.

    Optimize and Defrag Drives in Windows 10

    It may be the optimization schedule set to automatically run doing this.

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...dows-10-a.html
    ok Shawn,

    will do as you say

    thanks

    F
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  10.    28 Apr 2016 #10
    Join Date : Oct 2013
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    64-bit Windows 10 Pro build 17046

    Don't forget to check if TRIM is enabled.

    Defragmentation of SSD's
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