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  1.    29 Mar 2016 #1
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    Problems swapping C drives when also using a single D drive.


    I have 2 C drives (GAMES & VIDEO), both SSD with win10 but also have a "D" drive for files and downloads. Every time I swap the SSDs, I have access issues to D drive. I need to go into the folders on D drive to allow permission then go back to C drive to open a file (from D drive) with an app on C drive.

    Got an idea its a security/sharing issue with Windows 10. Been doing this for years with other versions of windows and no problems.
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  2.    30 Mar 2016 #2
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    The two OSes will continue to over-write the permissions because you using a convoluted dual-boot system.

    I'm curious why you are running two different setups. Why not just run one version for both tasks?
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  3.    04 Apr 2016 #3
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    I use one hard drive for gaming and general use and use the other strickly for video editing.
    I don't want to clog up one drive with too many programs so I can keep Windows operating at its best.

    I have used this with other versions of windows with no hassles.
    If I set up both drives the same as far as permissions, it shouldn't matter when I swap them I would have thought.
    The secret is to know exactly what permissions then go through both drives.

    Both SSD's are only 128 GB as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
    The two OSes will continue to over-write the permissions because you using a convoluted dual-boot system.

    I'm curious why you are running two different setups. Why not just run one version for both tasks?
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  4.    04 Apr 2016 #4
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    The problem is that even though the names of the user accounts are the same on both Windows 10 drives, the security identifier is different. The SID is a unique number assigned to each user account when it is created (just like the GUID assigned to hard drive partitions).

    To see the SIDs of user accounts on the computer, open a command prompt and enter:
    wmic useraccount get name,sid

    The issue is that the security menu that sets permissions on files uses the user name to set permissions, but the underlying security system uses SIDs. So, when you swap hard drives/SSDs, even though the username is the same, the SID is different, so you have to reset the permissions each time to reset the SID.

    The workaround should be to have different user names on your two different SSD/HHDs. Or, on the D: drive files if you add Everyone to the permissions, I would think that would work as well.
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  5.    04 Apr 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by catweazel111 View Post
    I don't want to clog up one drive with too many programs so I can keep Windows operating at its best.
    That won't affect how Windows runs...never has. It's what's running in the system tray that affects performance. Back with Windows XP, you needed to do regular maintenance to keep Windows running smooth. Starting with 7 and especially now with 10, the systems run well as long as you follow the usual best practices.
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  6.    05 Apr 2016 #6
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    I've reloaded windows 10 on a formatted SSD. I created a different user from the other one. I've managed to share the "D" drive to everyone.
    Also managed to get the MSCONFIG to stay on "normal startup" in case it was closing apps required by sharing.
    The good news is my USB3 speeds are now at usb3 speeds not usb2, the bad new is I still get a popup stating You don't currently have permission to access this folder" when I open any folder on the "D" drive. After I open it the once its OK.
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  7.    05 Apr 2016 #7
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  8.    05 Apr 2016 #8
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    Thanks.


    Never heard of this before. Will give it a go. Thanks for the help.

    Dave
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  9.    05 Apr 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by catweazel111 View Post
    I've reloaded windows 10 on a formatted SSD. I created a different user from the other one. I've managed to share the "D" drive to everyone.
    Also managed to get the MSCONFIG to stay on "normal startup" in case it was closing apps required by sharing.
    The good news is my USB3 speeds are now at usb3 speeds not usb2, the bad new is I still get a popup stating You don't currently have permission to access this folder" when I open any folder on the "D" drive. After I open it the once its OK.
    Sharing D Drive to Everyone is not enough. Right click on D Drive->Properties->Security and add a user "Everyone" and give it full control. Click Apply
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  10.    07 Apr 2016 #10
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    Added this but didnt make any difference.



    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Sharing D Drive to Everyone is not enough. Right click on D Drive->Properties->Security and add a user "Everyone" and give it full control. Click Apply
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