Windows 10: Windows 10 and future CPUs

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  1.    17 Feb 2016 #1

    Windows 10 and future CPUs


    Hey all,

    Premise: So lately I've been reading up on articles (below) that detail Win 10 and old CPUs will no longer be compatible. I want to stay on Win 7 as long as possible as i think it's perfect for my needs, however my rig is long due for an update. My CPU, board, RAM and various I/O protocols are all nearing their life and usefulness and I don't want Win 10's privacy issues

    Microsoft says new processors will only work with Windows 10 | The Verge

    However there are a few questions i still have:


    1. Causality; are the new CPUs not allowed to run anything except Win 10, or is Win 10 only allowing new CPUs to run on it?
    2. Security; as i understand it, Win 7 will only receive the most important updates up till mid 2017 and will cease to be "supported". If it's just virus definitions, i would be fine with that as i use an external AV program, but its the loopholes and backdoors (ex. java, SQL etc) that im concerned with. Should i be?


    Finally if upgrading my hardware will force me to use Win 10, is Mac OS / Linux the only alternative?

    Help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!!
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       17 Feb 2016 #2

    1 it reads like the processors will not run older Windows versions, but Windows 10 is not giving up support for those processors it runs on now.
    2, When you hear that the remaining 9% of public service computers running XP have gone caput overnight in some final eXPloit then you should worry that the same fate will happen to 7. It hasn't, and it won't. If you use Windows 7 and no other vulnerable Windows product like Internet Explorer 10 and earlier, then your 3rd party antimalware etc., should protect you, unless you are an incautious internet user. How often do you get viruses up to now?
    Finally, to use Mac OS legitimately you need to buy your hardware from them. If you want to run Linux, there will be little chance of finding new hardware that will not run it, or not finding older hardware that runs it too. If you buy new off the shelf hardware, it will likely have Windows (forget the 10) on it and you will be able to run older Windows on the machine in some capacity, probably as a virtual machine. There are alternative OS flavours, but do you really need another?

    Then again, not all things go Microsoft's way, and there are more than one processor manufacturer for desktop, mobile and phone devices, so it will be up for grabs. Who knows what the next must-have revolution in edutainment-infocomms will be?
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  3.    17 Feb 2016 #3

    >but Windows 10 is not giving up support for those processors it runs on now.
    actually i read on another article win 10 is planning on ending support on all but the latest CPUs and select components that are typically corporate/enterprise components, excluding most consumers and essentially ending their support as well

    yes, i run avast antivirus and use a little common sense when browsing. the combination has kept me safe so far. tbh, its not so much the known that concerns me (botnets, conficker, downandup, stuxnet etc), it's the unknown and m$'s unwillingness to provide support to continually patch the system that has be concerned. i cant remember the last time i got a virus, but the concern is there

    >there are more than one processor manufacturer for desktop, mobile and phone devices
    yes, but all the players that count are onboard the crazy train (intel, AMD and qualcomm)
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  4.    17 Feb 2016 #4

    chaosrealm93 said: View Post
    >but Windows 10 is not giving up support for those processors it runs on now.
    actually i read on another article win 10 is planning on ending support on all but the latest CPUs and select components that are typically corporate/enterprise components, excluding most consumers and essentially ending their support as well

    yes, i run avast antivirus and use a little common sense when browsing. the combination has kept me safe so far. tbh, its not so much the known that concerns me (botnets, conficker, downandup, stuxnet etc), it's the unknown and m$'s unwillingness to provide support to continually patch the system that has be concerned. i cant remember the last time i got a virus, but the concern is there

    >there are more than one processor manufacturer for desktop, mobile and phone devices
    yes, but all the players that count are onboard the crazy train (intel, AMD and qualcomm)
    If you could please post a link for the article that might help us understand your point more.

    From my understanding, when new processors come out(higher end) they will only be able to operate with 10 and I'm not aware of any mention of dropping support for current and older processors.

    Please post that link, I would like to read the article.

    Jeff
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  6.    17 Feb 2016 #6

    Thanks.. I'll give that a read and reply later on.. multitasking right now.. cooking Potato Pancakes and doing some COBOL coding.
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  7.    17 Feb 2016 #7

    Ooh... pancakes..... havent had them in some time
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  8.    17 Feb 2016 #8

    chaosrealm93 said: View Post
    Ooh... pancakes..... havent had them in some time
    Yup and they are good,.

    Now I gave the article a quick read and form what I read only new 6th generation Intel processor(Skylake) will be required to use 10. All of the pervious 5th and lower Intel processors can use it with no issues.
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  9.    17 Feb 2016 #9

    Well at best, one can only dodge the win 10 spyware for 1 cycle of upgrades right?

    What i mean is; say i buy all the latest components needed to build a new system (that still supports win 7), by the time i need to overhaul my system again (5-6 years later), all that will be left is the new components, which will be tied in with win 10.

    Is there no escape?

    Is Mac / Linux the only way out? lol
    Last edited by chaosrealm93; 17 Feb 2016 at 17:27.
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  10.    17 Feb 2016 #10

    chaosrealm93 said: View Post
    Well at best, one can only dodge the win 10 spyware for 1 cycle of upgrades right?

    What i mean is; say i buy all the latest components needed to build a new system (that can still run win 7), by the time i need to overhaul my system again (5-6 years later), all that will be left is the new components, which will be tied in with win 10.

    Is there no escape?

    Is Mac / Linux the only way out? lol
    No one is saying that Intel or AMD are going to stop making a 4th or 5th generation processor that will work with 7. In 5 years who knows what processors will be around but it's fair to say that in that time Wn7 will no longer be receiving security updates and using it might be as risky as using Xp is today.,

    Bottom line, AMD hasn't committed to this approach for future processors so that might still be a good option in a few years.

    And finally,, even Linux distribution send back telemetry.. so there is no escape.
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