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  1.    16 Jan 2016 #1
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    Windows 10 drivers confusion


    So I got a Lenovo Z50-70 laptop.

    The drivers from the Lenovo support site are barely updated and most of them are the old versions that were released as beta when Windows 10 appeared.

    Would it be recommended to stick to those drivers for better performance or should I update them manually from the site/or through Windows Update?

    Since the latest reinstall I expected BSOD quite some times due to my NVIDIA driver I think.

    Also I can't seem to find the Windows 10 compatible (update) for my graphics card. When I'm in the Device Manager it's listed as Intel(R) HD Graphics Family and on the site where I got the laptop from it's graphics card is listed as Intel HD 4400.

    Hope I was coherent enough.

    Thanks!
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  2.    16 Jan 2016 #2
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    My advice would be to see how well the Microsoft offered drivers work for your laptop's motherboard, graphics and CPU. Windows 10 is doing a pretty good job of selecting drivers for most situations so my guess is that it will pick the correct driver for your built in graphics card.

    If you did not do a clean install I would recommend doing that to be sure you obtain best performance and avoid BSOD issues from anything carried over from previous OS or drivers. See the tutorial section if you are not sure how to do this.
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  3.    16 Jan 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by philc43 View Post
    My advice would be to see how well the Microsoft offered drivers work for your laptop's motherboard, graphics and CPU. Windows 10 is doing a pretty good job of selecting drivers for most situations so my guess is that it will pick the correct driver for your built in graphics card.

    If you did not do a clean install I would recommend doing that to be sure you obtain best performance and avoid BSOD issues from anything carried over from previous OS or drivers. See the tutorial section if you are not sure how to do this.
    I did a clean install last time and I am having sever BSO even when I'm starting the Windows.
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  4.    16 Jan 2016 #4
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    I think this calls for some systematic troubleshooting.

    Does your laptop boot up OK in safe mode or does it still suffer from BSODs? If safe mode is OK then you can start to identify which driver or process is causing the problem by gradually introducing them using the clean boot procedure.

    If you have BSODs in safe mode then the problem is likely to be in the hardware and I would begin by performing a memory test to see if you have faulty memory.

    Hope these suggestions help
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  5.    16 Jan 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by philc43 View Post
    I think this calls for some systematic troubleshooting.

    Does your laptop boot up OK in safe mode or does it still suffer from BSODs? If safe mode is OK then you can start to identify which driver or process is causing the problem by gradually introducing them using the clean boot procedure.

    If you have BSODs in safe mode then the problem is likely to be in the hardware and I would begin by performing a memory test to see if you have faulty memory.

    Hope these suggestions help
    I got new RAMs to mount on my laptop and I'll see after that how it goes. HDD is ok, I tested it.

    So you think the best combination is the original drivers + windows 10 update for them? Why no manual update?
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  6.    16 Jan 2016 #6
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    So you think the best combination is the original drivers + windows 10 update for them? Why no manual update?
    When doing a clean install Windows always selects its best guess drivers for everything it can. Then, I check in Device Manager to see which device drivers (if any) were not installed, these are identified by the yellow exclamation marks, and I then use the manufacturers website to get the drivers I need and manually install them. After that I let windows handle any further updates if it finds better drivers in the future apart from some devices like Graphics cards where I will check for new drivers on a regular basis.
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  7.    16 Jan 2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by philc43 View Post
    When doing a clean install Windows always selects its best guess drivers for everything it can. Then, I check in Device Manager to see which device drivers (if any) were not installed, these are identified by the yellow exclamation marks, and I then use the manufacturers website to get the drivers I need and manually install them. After that I let windows handle any further updates if it finds better drivers in the future apart from some devices like Graphics cards where I will check for new drivers on a regular basis.
    Best guess drivers?
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  8.    16 Jan 2016 #8
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    Sorry, I did not explain that very well - I meant Windows picks a WHQL certified driver from its own database which it considers to be the best available for that device.
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  9.    16 Jan 2016 #9
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    Hi there.
    Please fill in your system specs for us.
    Looking on the Lenovo web site, I find this for your system:

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    But you are talking nVidia *and* Intel, so I am confused.

    I agree with @philc43, that Windows will, on a clean install, usually install the best drivers for your devices.

    -You have performed a clean install, yes? Where did the ISO come from? Media Creation Tool? MS TechBench?

    -Are you able to get into the operating system at all, or does it BSOD immediately, so you can't do anything?
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  10.    16 Jan 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by simrick View Post
    Hi there.
    Please fill in your system specs for us.
    Looking on the Lenovo web site, I find this for your system:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	LenovoZ50specs.PNG 
Views:	4 
Size:	58.7 KB 
ID:	59176

    But you are talking nVidia *and* Intel, so I am confused.

    I agree with @philc43, that Windows will, on a clean install, usually install the best drivers for your devices.

    -You have performed a clean install, yes? Where did the ISO come from? Media Creation Tool? MS TechBench?

    -Are you able to get into the operating system at all, or does it BSOD immediately, so you can't do anything?
    Product Overview - Lenovo Z50-70 - Lenovo Support (US)

    This is all I could find about it.

    I can tell you that the integrated graphics processor is Intel HD Graphics 4400 and the Graphics card is NVidia 840M.

    Lenovo IdeaPad Z50-70 (59427656) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
    http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-z50-7...mdxea6ay8nzn5y

    I added some helpful links (I hope).

    The model is Z50-70, not Z50.

    Clean install it was. Media Creator.

    I am able to log in, once in a while. But sometimes it just randomly crashes, while opening Photoshop (e.g.) or when I'm shutting down the PC.

    I got a dual but, and on Linux I don't have any problems.

    The drivers always made me confused. I don't know if I should stay with the ones from the support site, the ones from the Intel/NVidia/etc or I should use the ones from the laptop support + Windows Update.

    Thanks for all your patience!
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