Windows 10: Dell Dimension E520 ... CPU Not Compatible? Solved

  1.    29 Dec 2015 #1

    Dell Dimension E520 ... CPU Not Compatible?


    Hello,

    I'm trying to solve the mystery of why I cannot upgrade to Windows 10 Pro 64bit on a Dell Dimension E520. The Windows report shows that the CPU is not compatible.

    I've researched the problem a little and discovered that other people seem to be running windows 10 on this hardware although Dell isn't releasing specific windows 10 drivers. It's an all-Intel system, ICH8

    I've got the latest BIOS flashed and NX is enabled.

    Here's a dump from coreinfo:
    Code:
    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHzIntel64 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
    Microcode signature: 00000003
    HTT           *    Hyperthreading enabled
    HYPERVISOR    -    Hypervisor is present
    VMX           -    Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
    SVM           -    Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
    X64           *    Supports 64-bit mode
    
    
    SMX           -    Supports Intel trusted execution
    SKINIT        -    Supports AMD SKINIT
    
    
    NX            *    Supports no-execute page protection
    SMEP          -    Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
    SMAP          -    Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
    PAGE1GB       -    Supports 1 GB large pages
    PAE           *    Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
    PAT           *    Supports Page Attribute Table
    PSE           *    Supports 4 MB pages
    PSE36         *    Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
    PGE           *    Supports global bit in page tables
    SS            *    Supports bus snooping for cache operations
    VME           *    Supports Virtual-8086 mode
    RDWRFSGSBASE    -    Supports direct GS/FS base access
    
    
    FPU           *    Implements i387 floating point instructions
    MMX           *    Supports MMX instruction set
    MMXEXT        -    Implements AMD MMX extensions
    3DNOW         -    Supports 3DNow! instructions
    3DNOWEXT      -    Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
    SSE           *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
    SSE2          *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    SSE3          *    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSSE3         -    Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
    SSE4a         -    Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
    SSE4.1        -    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
    SSE4.2        -    Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2
    
    
    AES           -    Supports AES extensions
    AVX           -    Supports AVX intruction extensions
    FMA           -    Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
    MSR           *    Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
    MTRR          *    Supports Memory Type Range Registers
    XSAVE         -    Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
    OSXSAVE       -    Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
    RDRAND        -    Supports RDRAND instruction
    RDSEED        -    Supports RDSEED instruction
    
    
    CMOV          *    Supports CMOVcc instruction
    CLFSH         *    Supports CLFLUSH instruction
    CX8           *    Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
    CX16          *    Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
    BMI1          -    Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
    BMI2          -    Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
    ADX           -    Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
    DCA           -    Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
    F16C          -    Supports half-precision instruction
    FXSR          *    Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
    FFXSR         -    Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
    MONITOR       *    Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
    MOVBE         -    Supports MOVBE instruction
    ERMSB         -    Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
    PCLMULDQ      -    Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
    POPCNT        -    Supports POPCNT instruction
    LZCNT         -    Supports LZCNT instruction
    SEP           *    Supports fast system call instructions
    LAHF-SAHF     *    Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
    HLE           -    Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
    RTM           -    Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions
    
    
    DE            *    Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
    DTES64        *    Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
    DS            *    Implements memory-resident debug buffer
    DS-CPL        *    Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
    PCID          -    Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
    INVPCID       -    Supports INVPCID instruction
    PDCM          -    Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
    RDTSCP        -    Supports RDTSCP instruction
    TSC           *    Supports RDTSC instruction
    TSC-DEADLINE    -    Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
    TSC-INVARIANT    -    TSC runs at constant rate
    xTPR          *    Supports disabling task priority messages
    
    
    EIST          -    Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
    ACPI          *    Implements MSR for power management
    TM            *    Implements thermal monitor circuitry
    TM2           *    Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
    APIC          *    Implements software-accessible local APIC
    x2APIC        -    Supports x2APIC
    
    
    CNXT-ID       *    L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS
    
    
    MCE           *    Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
    MCA           *    Implements Machine Check Architecture
    PBE           *    Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin
    
    
    PSN           -    Implements 96-bit processor serial number
    
    
    PREFETCHW     -    Supports PREFETCHW instruction
    
    
    Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000005 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).
    
    
    Logical to Physical Processor Map:
    **  Physical Processor 0 (Hyperthreaded)
    
    
    Logical Processor to Socket Map:
    **  Socket 0
    
    
    Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
    **  NUMA Node 0
    
    
    No NUMA nodes.
    
    
    Logical Processor to Cache Map:
    **  Data Cache          0, Level 1,   16 KB, Assoc   8, LineSize  64
    **  Unified Cache       0, Level 2,    1 MB, Assoc   8, LineSize 128
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2.    29 Dec 2015 #2

    I have a Dell E310 with a Pemtium 4 HT processer and it is running Windows 10 just fine. Are you trying to upgrade through Windows Update? I made a Windows 10 install USB stick and started the upgrade from the desktop. Plug in your USB stick and double click on Setup.exe. Either that or make a Windows 10 DVD and start the upgrade with it. From the Desktop put in the Windows 10 DVD and when Setup.exe pops up click on that. Your upgrade should start. Don't try to do the upgrade through the Windows Update.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3.    29 Dec 2015 #3

    Found it.

    To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF.
    I could probably install the 32bit version.

    (Through a clean install)
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4.    29 Dec 2015 #4

    I had a Dimension E510 (same as a Dimension 5150) and it struggled with Vista 32 bit (upgraded from the original XP). With a max 4GB of memory there was no reason to use a 64 bit OS.
    I can only imagine how "great" it would work with newer Operating Systems.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5.    29 Dec 2015 #5

    fireberd said: View Post
    I had a Dimension E510 (same as a Dimension 5150) and it struggled with Vista 32 bit (upgraded from the original XP). With a max 4GB of memory there was no reason to use a 64 bit OS. I can only imagine how "great" it would work with newer Operating Systems.
    Windows 7 Pro 64bit was running okay on this machine however it was not being used for games or anything like that. At one point with a Radeon HD 6450 installed I saw a windows experience index of 4.2 The machine still lives, so I'm trying to keep it as up to date as I can. It's a bit of a hassle, but I'm still considering a backup and clean install of the 32bit version of Windows 10 Pro. It means only 3GB of memory however which I'm not really all that pleased about. Sure would be nice if Microsoft's easy transfer or something accounted for this 64bit to 32bit situation. I guess I can try to find a better 64 bit CPU - if the E520 will support it
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6.    29 Dec 2015 #6

    I can install an E6700 or Q6700 according to http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19287896

    I'm not entirely certain that will solve the problem. But I see people selling these relatively old processors for $35 or less! Worth it for extra cache.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7.    30 Dec 2015 #7

    Keep in mind the only real reason to use a 64 bit is if you have more than 4GB of RAM. 64 bit OS will address more than 4GB, where the 32 bit will not. However, a 64 bit OS uses more of the basic memory so there is less available for programs.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8.    30 Dec 2015 #8

    fireberd said: View Post
    ...4GB...
    Yes, in this case, 1GB would be video card memory, leaving me with only 3GB addressable system RAM using 32bit. If I can upgrade the system slightly for $35 and get the easy upgrade path to Windows 10 I'm going to do it.

    It looks like others have had success with 8GB with a 64bit OS on the E520 here: http://en.community.dell.com/what-do...516/t/19034789
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  9. Posts : 5
    Windows 10 Pro AU x64
       01 Jan 2016 #9

    Just FYI: I have a Dell Dimension E520 (the one I'm typing this on) that originally came with Windows XP, a Core2Duo cpu and 2 G of ram. I long ago updated it to 8 G of ram and a Core2Quad Q6700 four core cpu and it has run XP, Vista x64, 7 x64, 8 x64, 8.1 x64 and now Win 10 x64 without any drama.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  10. Posts : 4
    Win-10 Home 64-bit
       03 May 2016 #10

    artaslove said: View Post
    Yes, in this case, 1GB would be video card memory, leaving me with only 3GB addressable system RAM using 32bit. If I can upgrade the system slightly for $35 and get the easy upgrade path to Windows 10 I'm going to do it.

    It looks like others have had success with 8GB with a 64bit OS on the E520
    Bit of an old thread, but since the Win-10 upgrade period is ending soon, figured I'd chime in.

    I just updated a similar computer, a Dimension 5150, from XP 512 megs to Win-10 32-bit with 3GB.
    I also had problems going to 64-bit so I swapped in a faster D945 processor when upgrading to 64-bit.

    The old hardware runs nicely under Win-10 64-bit even with only 3GB of memory for my setup.
    The upgrade to 64-bit didn't get me any more ram (a 5150 only sees 3.25GB max) but 64-bit OS
    has other benefits, it allows you to run the 64-bit versions of web browsers, more secure, more stable.
    Also, it seems like there is better support for peripherals with the 64-bit drivers.

    All in all, definitely worth it to basically have a brand new PC.
    Last edited by HalS; 04 May 2016 at 09:20.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


 

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