1.    14 Nov 2015 #1
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    windows 7

    Can we force-install a HID Audio device IN ADDITION to OEM?


    Conexant Audio devices have been troublesome for Windows 10 since the earliest previews, and still are. on 2 YOga 2's I config'd, on one HP AMD-based G4, on one Thinkpad I've worked with - all Conexant drivers intalled would fail sooner or later [usually soon] after installing Windows 10 drivers either/both via wupd or OEM. devices work fine under windows 8.1 and 7. The workaround was/is to switch the OEM device for Microsoft HID audio device driver.

    On a UX305FA Asus Zenbook, for the most part the conexant device works under Windows 10.
    But: is there a way to ALSO install alongside it the MS "High Definition" device OR the now-missing Intel HD HDMI Audio Device. [that is another issue: Intel HDMI audio only succeeds install about 50% of the time in Windows 10.]

    appreciate your help
    c
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  2.    14 Nov 2015 #2
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    To avoid Windows Update replacing working drivers, see this tutorial how to hide the relevant updates so they won't install. As far as I know, a device can only have one driver. You cannot install OEM and Microsoft together, it is either one or the other, OEM preferred. To manually force install a specific driver, click on the search icon and type device, then click to open Device Manager. Then expand the Sound, video and game controllers. Right-click on the audio adapter and select Update Drivers. Then select the last option. Then also the last option, until you see a Have disk button. Click on this button and browse to the files where you extracted the driver files. Select the first model from the list and proceed, even if Windows may warn you it cannot confirm it is compatible. After installing the driver, restart the computer to take effect. Then hide the relevant updates to keep Windows Update from replacing it.
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  3.    15 Nov 2015 #3
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    Understood, but that was not my question. The question was whether a second device can be forced.
    The most obvious example of this would be the HDMI Audio "Device" that the better-implemented GPU's install for support of full-spec audio support for High Def Video/audio across HDMI. Intel has had trouble doing good software work for this and to my knowledge is still not coherent on Windows 10. See links for examples.
    Since neither a downloadable from Intel nor wupdate is reliable in installing the device, many users [and intel development guys] have tried to find a way to install it and make it stick. AMD, even in their budget end APU families, and dedicated Nvidia have it down pretty solid.
    re: intel woes:
    Quick Reference Guide for Intel® Core™ Processor Graphics | Intel® Developer Zone
    -NEW- Intel® Iris™, Iris™ Pro, and HD Graphics ... | Intel Communities
    HDMI: No audio with HD Graphics 5500 on Windows... | Intel Communities
    Test Driver for HDMI Display Detection Issues | Intel Communities


    Virtual/software DAC's are not new - been around for years.

    as to the workaround for the deficient windows 'prevent' via Advanced Properties, I think this may be the better way to go: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930


    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    To avoid Windows Update replacing working drivers, see this tutorial how to hide the relevant updates so they won't install. As far as I know, a device can only have one driver. You cannot install OEM and Microsoft together, it is either one or the other, OEM preferred. To manually force install a specific driver, click on the search icon and type device, then click to open Device Manager. Then expand the Sound, video and game controllers. Right-click on the audio adapter and select Update Drivers. Then select the last option. Then also the last option, until you see a Have disk button. Click on this button and browse to the files where you extracted the driver files. Select the first model from the list and proceed, even if Windows may warn you it cannot confirm it is compatible. After installing the driver, restart the computer to take effect. Then hide the relevant updates to keep Windows Update from replacing it.
    Last edited by cognus; 15 Nov 2015 at 21:35. Reason: add refs
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  4.    16 Nov 2015 #4
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    The Intel/NVidia/AMD HDMI audio is a different device than your onboard audio card and works because it uses different resources (IRQ, DMA etc). If you try to manually add a new device and use the same resources as your audio card, you will get an error 10 (device cannot start) or other error. To make the new device work (if possible) you must disable the original device so the resources are not reserved. Haven't tried it in Windows 10, but to manually add a device, from Device Manager right-click on the computer (top level) and select Add legacy hardware. Remember that to force your own drivers, you must manually do every step (last option), not allow Windows to search for drivers etc.
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