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  1.    07 Oct 2015 #31
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    Ok guys, your giving me lots of reading to do.....geee thanks!!
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  2.    08 Oct 2015 #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Ok guys, your giving me lots of reading to do.....geee thanks!!
    Take your time, in the meantime, as long as "Secure Boot off" is working, there shouldn't be a problem. But still have a look at possibilities presented so maybe you don't have to disable secure boot.
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  3.    08 Oct 2015 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    Take your time, in the meantime, as long as "Secure Boot off" is working, there shouldn't be a problem. But still have a look at possibilities presented so maybe you don't have to disable secure boot.
    Yeah, bottom line right now is secure boot feature is on, fast boot is off. I can also still use my dvd drive to boot from which has always worked with no problem. Even with fast boot enabled it works. For whatever reason its only my usb drives that give me problems. But I do have Macrium working and booting off my usb drive, which I do use a lot. Thanks to you folks and all the help and suggestions you gave me.
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  4.    08 Oct 2015 #34
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    I tried Rufus, as well as other similar tools and even manually copying files into the efi folder. Nothing works. It is probably my Laptop. Two days after I bought it I needed to use my first Restore Point. It hung for 20 minutes before the restore point succeeded. Most of the time they fail. I think they slipped me an "open box" on the sly. But that's another sob story. heh heh

    As Sgt. Preston used to say to his dog "King, this case is closed."

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  5.    08 Oct 2015 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    I tried Rufus, as well as other similar tools and even manually copying files into the efi folder. Nothing works. It is probably my Laptop. Two days after I bought it I needed to use my first Restore Point. It hung for 20 minutes before the restore point succeeded. Most of the time they fail. I think they slipped me an "open box" on the sly. But that's another sob story. heh heh

    As Sgt. Preston used to say to his dog "King, this case is closed."

    I never use restore points....EVER!!! delete them most of the time. I prefer to make complete image backups instead. That for me is the BEST method, Macrium Reflect or Acronis True image, But lately been using Macruim a lot more than Acronis even thou I have been a registered owner of Acronis since 2006. Also my computer is a Desktop, never cared much for laptops, cause I like to upgrade my components inside my computer, and laptops are too hard to do, everything is just to tiny for me.
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  6.    08 Oct 2015 #36
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    On my desktops I never had problems using Restore Points. A backup image is fine but just for fixing a munged Registry Setting or 2 it seems like overkill when I can run a Restore Point in about 3 minutes.

    I always had desktops. This Toshiba is my first ever Laptop. I have still never owned a smart phone, Blackberry, tablet or even a pager. But I had to go Laptop out of necessity. The one thing I do like about it is free WiFi. I was shelling out a fortune to Comcast for broadband plus TV package etc..

    But I preferred the file system on VMS OS. It automatically did backups. Say you had a text editor and you create a file Readme.txt. You save it the first time, you have Readme.txt on disk. The 2nd time you have that file plus Readme.txt;1. The next save Readme.txt;2 is added etc..

    To get rid of the superfluous backups there was a purge command. To delete all but the 4 newest copies of all files in the current directory you would enter at the command prompt: purge /keep-4

    In fact I am pretty sure when you see people lament the fact that Windows Longhorn never came to fruition with the database driven file system, the file system was to be a port of the CMS file system that VMS used.

    But I wax nostalgic.
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  7.    08 Oct 2015 #37
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    Just an update on what I've done, After making my usb flash drive bootable, and formatted with fat32, I have gone back into my bios settings, and as I stated earlier have my secure boot back on, then today I went back in to my bios, and turned on Fast Reboot option.
    I read that should be left off, in order for the usb drive to be found if I had my bootable usb drive installed in the drive. I wanted to test that theory myself. After turning on Fast Reboot option in my bois I rebooted, back to desktop, then placed my bootable usb drive in computer, then rebooted. Soon as my computer got to my HP logo I hit my F9 key, which shows me my boot options menu. The menu showed my usb drive that had Macrium Reflect on it just fine. So I have everything in my bios set back to its original settings, and everything works just fine, I can boot from my Flash drive or my dvd drive with Fast boot enabled from the bios.
    Having fast boot enabled may not work on everyone's computer, but seems to work fine on mine. But like Word Man has said, the flash drive has to be formatted as a fat32 partition, or a computer with UEFI bios will not see the flash drive. Just thought I would post my latest results on what I have done to date. Thanks again guys for all the help I was given!!!!
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  8.    26 Jan 2016 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    OK I have been trying for the last 2 days to boot from a usb drive on my computer, read some of the tutorials on how to do this method. Nothing seems to work so far. Been trying the recovery method, then choosing Advance setup.
    That works to the point of showing my choices, if I choose the boot to uefi settings then choose boot options from my menu, usb option is never listed. If I use a dvd, then its always listed as an option.

    Now this is the strange part for me, Also listed at the advance setup menu at boot up is TWO UEFI RealTek PCie GBE Family Controller's on my menu. one says IPv4 the 2nd one says IPv6 Should I show two family controllers on the boot menu??? Is this normal?? Computer is an HP Envy Desktop 810-160

    Bottom line is this computer is 2014 model, so kinda new, and I have not found anyway yet to boot to any usb drive yet. Boots from dvd drive with no problem. Fast boot is off.
    Saw one recomendation from a windows recovery software to use mbr only drives on usb. Paragon software can convert without data loss. Not sure. I'm still teaching my Win 10 machines networking and finding usb 3.0 drives above 1Tb.
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  9.    26 Jan 2016 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomwho7 View Post
    Saw one recomendation from a windows recovery software to use mbr only drives on usb. Paragon software can convert without data loss. Not sure. I'm still teaching my Win 10 machines networking and finding usb 3.0 drives above 1Tb.
    You just replied to a VERY old thread tomwho7 this problem was solved Months ago for me.
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