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  1.    07 Oct 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    If not, I would stick with the FAT32 but create the Macrium Rescue with that same drive all over again since it may have done something different when you created it with what I assume was NTFS format.

    When I posted the link to the Macrium Knowledge Base article, I assumed you would do the whole process all over again.
    Never assume anything when chatting with an Old Brat Word Man. I cheated, and tried the easyway 1st. AND after changing my bios setting back to having secure boot back on, then rebooted, then hit my F9 key, my boot menu showed the Macrium Reflect usb stick just fine!!! I booted into Macrium and the menu came right up, faster than using my DVD. It worked!! MiniTool is also pretty darn good Utility Word Man.....really.
    But I would not have tried using fat32 if YOU had not told me to try sir!!!! I just used a different method is all.
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  2.    07 Oct 2015 #22
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    Good job then, OldMike! I've had MiniTool now for a month or so since I picked up on it from you and other forum members and me likes it plenty. Just haven't had an excuse to give it a real workout yet.
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  3.    07 Oct 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    Good job then, OldMike! I've had MiniTool now for a month or so since I picked up on it from you and other forum members and me likes it plenty. Just haven't had an excuse to give it a real workout yet.
    So far Word Man Macrium is the only usb stick that I have made successfully and been able to boot too. A lot of that was Macrium doing all the work. Every time I've tried myself, I have failed. So I still got to learn how to make other usb sticks bootable. I've always used my dvd's for the past 30 years or so, making a bootable usb stick is completely NEW for me.
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  4.    07 Oct 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    So I still got to learn how to make other usb sticks bootable.
    Quote from this post: UEFI Boot Mode (installing using the GPT partition style) and Legacy BIOS Boot Mode (installing using the MBR partition style). -> link

    1. How to create UEFI Boot Mode compatible Windows 8/10 64-bit USB flash drive, which is only bootable in UEFI Boot Mode.

    Format your USB flash drive. Note: You need to choose the FAT32 file system (see screenshot below).

    When formatting is complete.
    - In Windows 8/10, mount the Windows 8/10 64-bit ISO image file by right-clicking the ISO image file and choosing Mount. If you donít see Mount command from the context menu, go to Open with -> Windows Explorer instead.
    - Select everything in the mounted ISO image file, and copy them into the USB flash drive you prepared earlier.

    - In UEFI Boot Mode, the UEFI firmware scan your computer's hard drives for existence of the EFI System partition, then run \efi\boot\bootx64.efi file in the EFI System partition.

    - If you are booting from a Windows 7/8/10 64-bit USB flash drive (FAT32 file system) in UEFI Boot Mode, then UEFI firmware run \efi\boot\bootx64.efi file. Note: This file does not exist by default in the Windows 7 installation media, so you need to create this file by using the Rufus program, if you want UEFI Boot Mode compatible Windows 7 64-bit USB flash drive.

    - If you are booting from a Windows 7/8/10 64-bit DVD in UEFI Boot Mode, then UEFI firmware run \efi\microsoft\boot\cdboot.efi file.

    UEFI Boot Mode do not use boot sectors on the hard drive (and the USB flash drive) and do not require active partition to be set.
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  5.    07 Oct 2015 #25
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    Well correct me if I am wrong genet, but that is showing me how to make a bootable usb stick, WITH Windows 10 installed on it. I do not need a usb stick with windows recovery, or a windows 10 install program. What I need to learn is how to make bootable usb sticks, with other programs installed on the stick, not windows.iso image.
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  6.    07 Oct 2015 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Well correct me if I am wrong genet, but that is showing me how to make a bootable usb stick, WITH Windows 10 installed on it. I do not need a usb stick with windows recovery, or a windows 10 install program. What I need to learn is how to make bootable usb sticks, with other programs installed on the stick, not windows.iso image.
    I suspect it will vary with the machine. I have read and tried a few dozen tutorials how to boot such and such an OS with UEFI enabled USB stick. None of them have worked. Windows 7 x64, Linux UEFI supposedly capable etc.. Windows 7 x64 I got it to boot up then it hangs at the logo.

    If your PC won't do it you can waste lots of time trying.
    The only USB stick so far I can boot without shifting my Laptop out of UEFI mode is Macrium Reflect rescue.
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  7.    07 Oct 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    I suspect it will vary with the machine. I have read and tried a few dozen tutorials how to boot such and such an OS with UEFI enabled USB stick. None of them have worked. Windows 7 x64, Linux UEFI supposedly capable etc.. Windows 7 x64 I got it to boot up then it hangs at the logo.

    If your PC won't do it you can waste lots of time trying.
    The only USB stick so far I can boot without shifting my Laptop out of UEFI mode is Macrium Reflect rescue.
    Yes I know what you mean, the reason Macrium does work, is because it also installs our system boot files. Either on a NTFS or Fat32 partition. That's the step we need to know how to do. Just making the usb active and primary, is not enough, need to install our boot files from windows 10 somehow. That's exactly what Macrium does.
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  8.    07 Oct 2015 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    ..to install our boot files from windows 10 somehow. That's exactly what Macrium does.
    Just a final "Word" on that, if I may: the "boot files" in that case are just what's required to boot into the WinPE environment, along with drivers it reckons it needs to run your machine (in WinPE only) as you execute the build from your particular machine. That WinPE operating system stands and operates alone from your prepared device regardless of which Operating System (Windows 7/8/10, or whatever) you have installed on your disk(s). There are more programs than just Macrium Reflect that will build this kind of bootable device for you to operate outside and independent of the specific OS installed on your machine.
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  9.    07 Oct 2015 #29
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    I don't know if you tried this but, been using for a long time with 100pct on creating bootable usb stuff. Rufus Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
    the latest is the 2.4 version. It is freeware.
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  10.    07 Oct 2015 #30
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    Brink also covers Rufus in his tutorial here: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...dows-10-a.html (in the context of Windows 10, see Option 2) and addresses Legacy/MBR versus UEFI/GPT setup.
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