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  1.    01 Oct 2015 #11
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    4GB? or 4TB! is what you meant to say there I assume. I know about heat inside those and why I initially suggested the internal install while also wishing I had seen one like the second eSata/usb over the usb/Firewire with the fan option! Drives get real warm and why I only the Acomdata for heavy transfers and removable backup only between the two desktops here. I actually had the drive used in the one here installed internally more then once first on an old Vista case before getting the enclosure and before going for the two Sata 3 1tb drives I've had in the present build for the last 5yrs.!

    With the case here once you unplug the 120mm fan cooler in the front of each 3 drive hard drive bay that pulls out once you remove all 8 thumbnail type fasters you simply put the four drive screws in and slide the cage back in. With other cases you have to reach inside to slide the drive in trying to work past the cables already in use.

    With a good quality phillips head screwdriver not no cheapo crap tool that is mismatched or ends up strippiing the head of the fasteners you snug them in slower to allow slack in order to get the drive even on both sides. You will want the matching size as well to avoid any of that.

    Never overtighten fasteners on drives especially optical drives as that can damage them as well as the expansion and contraction seen from heating up and cooling off over time! The same size fasteners for optical drives are used on hard drives as well. So it helps to hold onto spares when possible in case you lose one or two if you need to swap drives out some time.
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  2.    01 Oct 2015 #12

    Power adapter for win 10 PC HDD.


    Hi again Topgundpc, I have been lucky enough to locate a system very much like the one on Amazon.
    USB 3.0 to 2.5" 3.5" IDE SATA HDD Hard Disk Drive DVD-ROM OTB Converter Adapter

    It has the separate 12v power supply to power the SATA HDD. This type is good for me, as I do not wish to install the HDD in the PC, just get some data from the drive onto my new PC. I found it on ebay in Sydney Australia and it has free postage, so it is a win, win situation for me. I will let you know at a later date how I got on. My info maybe of some value to some other user?.

    Thanks again for your kind help, its very much appreciated.

    Cheers Maurie. KnockaT


    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Too bad you could not get one shipped to AUS. FYI, not all the USB - Sata interfaces are the same. I like this one because it supports high capacity HD (4GB) and the power adapter is small compared to the others.
    Using an enclosure is OK for occasional use, not for continous use because there is not enough air flow inside the enclosure and hence will shorten the life of the HD. In addition, if you have more than one HD's, you'd have to open the enclosure to swap it.

    However, The simpliest way for you now is just open the case. Look for an extra power connector from the PSU, I am sure there's couple extras in there then use a Sata cable to connect the HD to the Mother board. Boot up the PC and it should find the HD and automatically installs the driver for it. Here's an example from youtube on how to do it:
    NOTE: You need not to have the HD installed in the bay, just leave it hanging outside is OK unless you want to permanently install the drive as a spare in you PC.
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  3.    01 Oct 2015 #13
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    Once you have everything off of the old 500gb drive you can always create a full system image backup to be stored on it from the new system you have since you won't be using it for anything else. System Image - Create in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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  4.    01 Oct 2015 #14
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    4GB? or 4TB! is what you meant to say there I assume
    Good catch. I meant 4TB. Edited and fixed. Thanks
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  5.    01 Oct 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Good catch. I meant 4TB. Edited and fixed. Thanks
    You're welcome! I think for the most part people are too simply too used to seeing GB=Gigabyte and only now are starting more or less to get into the larger capacity 1.5-5tb drives. A few companies have the 5tb models out but watch the prices!
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  6.    14 Oct 2015 #16

    Hi Topgundpc, my new USB 3.0/2.0 sata/ide converter cable arrived. I installed it and opened up Disk Management and for a brief moment it showed up as :J drive. It then posted a msg saying that there was something wrong with the HDD , did I want to fix it and move on ? It then disconnected from disk management, never to be seen again. Am I missing something here? What do I have to do to get the drive letter back up on disk management? Any thoughts here please?
    Regards KnockaT.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaurieT View Post
    Hi again Topgundpc, I have been lucky enough to locate a system very much like the one on Amazon.
    USB 3.0 to 2.5" 3.5" IDE SATA HDD Hard Disk Drive DVD-ROM OTB Converter Adapter

    It has the separate 12v power supply to power the SATA HDD. This type is good for me, as I do not wish to install the HDD in the PC, just get some data from the drive onto my new PC. I found it on ebay in Sydney Australia and it has free postage, so it is a win, win situation for me. I will let you know at a later date how I got on. My info maybe of some value to some other user?.

    Thanks again for your kind help, its very much appreciated.

    Cheers Maurie. KnockaT
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  7.    14 Oct 2015 #17

    RE: USB error problem.


    Sorry Topgundpc, I omitted to add the error msg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaurieT View Post
    Hi Topgundpc, my new USB 3.0/2.0 sata/ide converter cable arrived. I installed it and opened up Disk Management and for a brief moment it showed up as :J drive. It then posted a msg saying that there was something wrong with the HDD , did I want to fix it and move on ? It then disconnected from disk management, never to be seen again. Am I missing something here? What do I have to do to get the drive letter back up on disk management? Any thoughts here please?
    Regards KnockaT.
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  8.    14 Oct 2015 #18
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    With the device plugged in. Open the Device Manager (Win+X->Device Manager) and look under Universal Serial Bus controllers
    Do you see any yellow exclamation mark ?
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  9.    14 Oct 2015 #19
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    Another place to check is in the System notification area where you right click on the Safely Remove hardware icon to see if the usb controller is listed. You may have to click the usb device if listed there to eject that and unplug the usb cord for a moment. When replugging it back in the fresh detection may see it fully detected. Hopefully that is what the problem is and not anyi issue with cable or drive.

    Devices plugged in by usb can disappear if Windows suddenly loses track of them like a plug not all the way in or loose. I don't like the sudden disappearing act in the DM however since that could indicate some type of fault with the cable itself or you have a drive going on you? But try getting Windows to detect if fresh. You might have to try that a few times.
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  10.    15 Oct 2015 #20

    Solved win 10 PC will not find my USB powered external HDD.


    Hi Topgundpc and Night hawk, well its a case of one step forward and two backwards fortunately

    After a lot of time and effort I think I have finally found the problem(s). I had 3 other HDD's here which I tried to connect with the new 3.0/2.0 SATA cable and found the cable was faulty. Having fixed that I tried again and all 3 drives were picked up by win10. This raised my hopes somewhat and I tried to connect the win7 drive that holds the data I wanted to recover. To my dismay. I got an error msg saying there is a serious problem with this disk drive. I can only surmise that it must have been the HD that caused the initial meltdown. So I am resigned to think that that is my lot.!! It was a worthwhile exercise which taught me a lot and I would like to thank you both for your help and time afforded to me. Thanks guys, I am very grateful.
    Best regards KnockaT.




    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    Another place to check is in the System notification area where you right click on the Safely Remove hardware icon to see if the usb controller is listed. You may have to click the usb device if listed there to eject that and unplug the usb cord for a moment. When replugging it back in the fresh detection may see it fully detected. Hopefully that is what the problem is and not anyi issue with cable or drive.

    Devices plugged in by usb can disappear if Windows suddenly loses track of them like a plug not all the way in or loose. I don't like the sudden disappearing act in the DM however since that could indicate some type of fault with the cable itself or you have a drive going on you? But try getting Windows to detect if fresh. You might have to try that a few times.
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