PC and laptop ram question


  1. Posts : 330
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    PC and laptop ram question


    Hello,

    Q1. My pc has 32gb ram and I use 68% Memory, 21.7gb In use, as seen in Task Manager https://i.imgur.com/VoPiea2.png so I assume if I have 16gb in my pc, my pc would hang/stuck or become very slow or browser crash auto close or not responding because 21.7gb has exceeded 16gb am I correct?

    Q2. If I want to buy a laptop and use the exact same software and same usage pattern like what I do in the pc, does it mean I would need 32gb ram for a laptop? I am not sure if laptop ram and pc ram performance are similar or not.

    Thanks
    Last edited by comcom; 21 Mar 2024 at 07:58.
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  2. Posts : 14,022
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    A1. Probably. But also consider that the Virtual Memory setting may have an effect.

    A2. Yes. Notebooks/Laptops can do nearly everything Desktops can do if set up the same way. As far as the CPU and RAM are concerned, mostly they are different physical sizes to fit on the motherboards.

    Those are just general answers, there will always be some small differences. If wanting to get as close to exactly the same it would mean getting a larger Notebook, probably a 17" or 15.6" so as to have a CD/DVD drive, more USB ports, etc. The smaller/lighter models means leaving things out.
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  3. Posts : 2,734
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    Q1 and Q2 If your usage of RAM is greater than what is installed then virtual memory is used which comes from your SSD/HDD and the size of that is managed by Windows and the application being used.

    Performance Options > Advanced Tab > Virtual memory.

    Laptops are designed to be small and lower power consumption thus upgrade options get less the smaller it is.
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  4. Posts : 330
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    Helmut said:
    Q1 and Q2 If your usage of RAM is greater than what is installed then virtual memory is used which comes from your SSD/HDD and the size of that is managed by Windows and the application being used.

    Performance Options > Advanced Tab > Virtual memory.

    Laptops are designed to be small and lower power consumption thus upgrade options get less the smaller it is.
    In my PC I see Virtual Memory Currently allocated: 18700MB screenshot https://i.imgur.com/ncvKOpP.png

    Does it mean if I have 16GB ram in my PC and the same PC needs 21.7gb In use, it will be able to cope because I guess 16GB Ram+18.7GB Virtual Memory=34.7GB means 34.7GB total memory is available?

    What is the maximum Virtual memory I can adjust to?

    Does your reply apply to both PC and laptop?
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  5. Posts : 2,734
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    Real world you never need to touch those settings. Mine have been Auto windows managed for 30 years.

    You have artificially set large memory requirements by opening a vast array of Browser Windows.

    PC/Laptop, same same.
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  6. Posts : 8,111
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    What are you doing to use 16gig i make Youtube videos and making a 3 gig video running firefox and lots of other stuff it doesnt come close to that I do have 32 gig and 16 core cpu
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  7. Posts : 2,734
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    You can see from the image given in post #1 that a large number of Chrome and Edge windows/tabs have been opened apparently with very little active content.
    I doubt that is real usage.
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  8. Posts : 330
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    It is real usage. Some articles/forums/videos tabs I leave it aside because I have no time to read them all at that moment or I need to refer to it later. For example I am researching for a new pc, I search for sn770 vs sn850x hard disk, opened some tabs with articles/forum/video, some of them need too much time to read so I just leave it aside first, while reading I read about sn770 no dram so i search for sn770 no dram problem and open some tabs opened some tabs with articles/forum/video, some of them need too much time to read so I just leave it aside first, while reading I read about samsung 980 pro and samsung 990 pro are better with dram so I search for samsung 980 pro vs samsung 990 pro some of them need too much time to read so I just leave it aside first, while reading I read about samsung 980 pro and samsung 990 pro has firmware problems so I search for are the samsung 980 pro and samsung 990 pro issues fixed today. There are a lot of tabs opened just to research for hard disk, then I might open another window to research other components. I need time to think about stuff and check prices etc so a lot of tabs are opened while I do research.

    I do not look at all tabs at the same time, most of the tabs are left opened but untouched (tab contents not displayed on screen. only the top of the tab can be seen on top tabs bar) because I need to refer to while I do research. It will waste time if I need to reopen them from favourites, I will need to scroll to look for the correct article I viewed previously and I need to click a few tabs to open a few urls in favourites because they might have similar titles and need time for them to load. If the articles are already opened tabs I can quickly just click once to see if the opened tab is the correct article I need, just a few clicks I can get back to the article I want.
    Last edited by comcom; 21 Mar 2024 at 20:45.
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