Memory Upgrade question

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  1. Posts : 98
    Windows 10
       #1

    Memory Upgrade question


    Hello! So, I've been running 16gb for ages, my board supports up to 16gb per slot, 4 slots. I was thinking about upgrading to the max the board can support, 64gb. So I have been poking around, can't find a single 16gbx4 kit, just 16gbx2 32gb kits. Crucial's memory finder auto populated their shopping cart with 4 individual 16gb modules. Now days with modern systems (Mine is a Ryzen) how important is it to get a kit vs, say, 2 32gb kits and mixing, or 4 individual 16gb sticks? As I don't see any other way to do this without mixing or reducing my want from 64gb to 32gb. I really do need the memory upgrade. ATM Task Manager is reporting 75% memory utilized with Firefox eating 1.8gb, as I just reset it, usually it eats way more as it has a memory leak (common amongst browsers in my experience >.< ) . Let me see, since the forum here is asking me to include my version #... Win 10 Pro - Version 10.0.19044 Build 19044 There. What are your thoughts on this? Thank you for your time.
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  2. Posts : 4,185
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #2

    I have often seen people get away with mismatched memory modules and everything works just fine - although I would definitely not suggest that. However, if you order memory of the same type and timings, you should be fine. So, in this instance, you could simply purchase 2 of 32GB kits to give you 4 16GB DIMMs. That's about as close to a matched set as you can get.

    I'm not at all trying to discourage you from populating 64GB in your system. Heck, I went with 128GB in my system . However, I don't want you to be misled. Just because you see 75% memory utilized, that may be completely meaningless. Depending upon what apps you are running, or what the system is doing, Windows can make use of additional memory even though it really needs nowhere near that amount.

    Even for most memory hungry situations, 32GB is very often a considered a really well-equipped system. You would really need to be running something highly memory hungry to need 64GB.

    Again, not at all trying to discourage you, just pointing out that 64GB can possibly be overkill that doesn't really buy you anything.

    In my case, I run 128GB only so that I can create a large RAM Drive for a disk intensive application, so that additional RAM can give you that kind of flexibility.
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  3. Posts : 23,142
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4291 (x64) [22H2]
       #3

    @llloyd4

    This is compatible with your motherboard... AND for a decent price. ^^

    G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2400 CL15 Memory (F4-2400C15D-32GTZRX) - PCPartPicker


    And I agree with @hsehestedt... 32GB is plenty.


    The only other things I can think of that would possibly require 64GB are things like Adobe or Photoshop editing, or maybe running 4-8 instances of a video game.
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  4. Posts : 98
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Yeah, just throwing more memory at the problem. I have to close Firefox to play Minecraft. The modpack I am trying to play eats up to 8gb of memory and if I try to run both the CPU utilization goes though the roof, as does memory. I was seeing in the neighborhood of 96% memory and 80% cpu. I change the settings in the launcher from 4gb to 8gb the CPU usage goes down but it then runs out of memory until I free up more and as Firefox uses the most, it gets sacrificed. >.< Heaven forefend I should try to use a Resource pack or Shaders or something. >.<
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  5. Posts : 23,142
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4291 (x64) [22H2]
       #5

    llloyd4 said:
    Yeah, just throwing more memory at the problem. I have to close Firefox to play Minecraft. The modpack I am trying to play eats up to 8gb of memory and if I try to run both the CPU utilization goes though the roof, as does memory. I was seeing in the neighborhood of 96% memory and 80% cpu. I change the settings in the launcher from 4gb to 8gb the CPU usage goes down but it then runs out of memory until I free up more and as Firefox uses the most, it gets sacrificed. >.< Heaven forefend I should try to use a Resource pack or Shaders or something. >.<


    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (100-100000059WOF) - PCPartPicker


    AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor (100-100000061WOF) - PCPartPicker



    7 tabs open... and 500MB is just Bitdefender

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    And... as I'm sure you know... Minecraft is CPU intensive.


    Short version...

    Get 32GB of RAM and maybe consider a CPU upgrade too. ^^
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  6. Posts : 98
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Ghot said:
    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (100-100000059WOF) - PCPartPicker


    AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor (100-100000061WOF) - PCPartPicker



    7 tabs open... and 500MB is just Bitdefender

    Memory Upgrade question-image1.png


    Memory Upgrade question-image1.png





    And... as I'm sure you know... Minecraft is CPU intensive.


    Short version...

    Get 32GB of RAM and maybe consider a CPU upgrade too. ^^
    Yeah, was thinking about it, new board, new processor, skip the 7000 series as it is designed to run around 90F from what the tech channels all say and that's just scary to someone who's seen 40s, maybe 50C at most? But that's gonna be a lot more expensive than a simple memory upgrade. Around $200 ish for the motherboard and around $400 ish for the CPU. The DDR4 32gb kit can be used in the new system until faster memory can be afforded. But still... More than I can afford atm, $130 for the memory is about it.

    Amazon.com - That's what I got, since that is what Crucial was pushing at me, well, Crucial was pushing individual sticks, but that's the matching 16gbx2 kit. Be a little bit of an upgrade if I can get the Ryzen processor to behave, from 2400 to 3200.
    Last edited by llloyd4; 18 Mar 2023 at 05:31.
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  7. Posts : 2,182
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #7

    I have a very similar system to yours. I upgraded my CPU and RAM.
    Motherboard: ASUS Prime X370-Pro
    CPU
    From: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
    To: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    RAM
    From: Corsair Vengeance CMK16GX4M2A2666C16R 2666MHz 16GB (2x8GB)
    To: GSkill FlairX F4-3200C16D-32GFX 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB)

    I was very leery of what parts picker was choosing for RAM upgrades as far as speeds. Originally when I bought the motherboard, CPU and RAM in 2017 the fastest RAM you could get for it was 2933MHz. I was more confident when I upgraded the CPU as far as supporting faster RAM. I never tried the Ryzen 1700X with the faster 3200MHz RAM so don't know if it would have worked.
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  8. Posts : 98
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Well, we'll see. I know Ryzen is picky when it comes to memory timings, from what I've seen on the tech channels. This whole setup is mostly pre-release purchased. If I remember right the MSI mommy board I got, got sent back, for some bizarro reason they decided the front panel USB 3 header needed to be at a right angle and my case's motherboard tray is slightly inset so the cable wouldn't clear. >.< Now, while the x370 board will support newer CPUs, up to Ryzen 3/5/7 5000 series (I think, I'll have to pull up the CPU support list) you won't get all the newer features from the x470 and x570 boards. That's really why I haven't, if I do I want to do it properly and get the matching board for the processor to fully unlock it.
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  9. Posts : 23,142
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4291 (x64) [22H2]
       #9

    llloyd4 said:
    Well, we'll see. I know Ryzen is picky when it comes to memory timings, from what I've seen on the tech channels. This whole setup is mostly pre-release purchased. If I remember right the MSI mommy board I got, got sent back, for some bizarro reason they decided the front panel USB 3 header needed to be at a right angle and my case's motherboard tray is slightly inset so the cable wouldn't clear. >.< Now, while the x370 board will support newer CPUs, up to Ryzen 3/5/7 5000 series (I think, I'll have to pull up the CPU support list) you won't get all the newer features from the x470 and x570 boards. That's really why I haven't, if I do I want to do it properly and get the matching board for the processor to fully unlock it.


    Your motherboard supports both the RAM I linked and the CPU I linked.
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  10. Posts : 98
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Ghot said:
    Your motherboard supports both the RAM I linked and the CPU I linked.
    Yes, but the processor will be restricted since my board don't support the newer features of that chip's generation. So to do it properly I'd need to get an x570 (or B550 I think?) mommy board too. Don't have the funding for about $500 layout for mommy board plus processor.
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