Memory Upgrade question

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  1. Posts : 23,229
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       #11

    llloyd4 said:
    Yes, but the processor will be restricted since my board don't support the newer features of that chip's generation. So to do it properly I'd need to get an x570 (or B550 I think?) mommy board too. Don't have the funding for about $500 layout for mommy board plus processor.


    Those processors are ON your motherboard's CPU support list.

    Granted, installing a Ryzen 3000 or 5000 series CPU won't ADD features to your motherboard... the CPUs themselves won't be "restricted" in any way.

    Down the road, you can upgrade the motherboard... "when" desired, and still use the CPU.


    The CPU is the limiting factor for Minecraft.
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  2. Posts : 23,229
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4291 (x64) [22H2]
       #12

    @llloyd4

    Maybe this will help... make sure to click on the "Expand for details" at the bottom of each build recommendations...

    Logical Increments





    The main reason, that you're having trouble finding 64GB kits, is not cause they're not out there.
    It's because they're not out there for YOUR motherboard.


    For example... this is available for the random motherboard/CPU I picked.
    5000 series CPU on an X570 motherboard...

    G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (F4-3200C16D-64GTRS) - PCPartPicker

    Or even...
    G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (F4-3600C16D-64GTRS) - PCPartPicker

    RAM Configurator - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.





    Part List - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X - PCPartPicker

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  3. Posts : 98
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       #13

    Well, that was quite the ordeal. Motherboard is being odd. I have 2 black colored memory sockets and 2 grey. My two 8gb modules was in the black slots. I powered down the system, unplugged it, took out the 2400s, put in the new 16gb 3200 module, plugged it back in, and no love. Just a black screen. So I powered down the system, unplugged it, took out the two 16gb modules, dusted the sockets with a can of air, reseated them and made sure I heard a solid click, plugged it back in, powered it up, no love. So faffing about later, and swapping the old 8gb modules back in, with no love, on a whim I put the two 8gbs into the two grey slots, worked. So back though all that all over again to swap the 8gb for the 16gb and it works. Odd that half my memory slots just said up yours. O.o But I am 32gb now. So yay!

    Oh and DOCP is disabled (greyed out) in the bios and I can't find the XMP setting. >.<

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    Ghot said:
    Those processors are ON your motherboard's CPU support list.

    Granted, installing a Ryzen 3000 or 5000 series CPU won't ADD features to your motherboard... the CPUs themselves won't be "restricted" in any way.

    Down the road, you can upgrade the motherboard... "when" desired, and still use the CPU.


    The CPU is the limiting factor for Minecraft.
    Well, I have to respectfully disagree. I have been keeping the Task Manager up on the other monitor while I play. Granted when its first starting it can peak at 80%, but while playing it rarely goes above 20% CPU usage, even during lag spikes, and a few crashes was due to Out of Memory. But now I can give it 8 or 10 gb, it's been only giving me the occasional lag spike without the processor % going up, and it's hovering around 50% memory usage. I think I just need to fine tune the Java arguments now and it should be good to go.
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  4. Posts : 23,229
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4291 (x64) [22H2]
       #14

    @llloyd4

    On your motherboard, when using TWO sticks of RAM, they should go into slots 2 and 4, when counting away from the CPU to the right. One stick only, should go in slot two.

    Memory Upgrade question-image1.png





    Link to your motherboard manual PDF...
    https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...IME%20X370-PRO
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  5. Posts : 98
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    Thread Starter
       #15

    Ghot said:
    @llloyd4

    On your motherboard, when using TWO sticks of RAM, they should go into slots 2 and 4, when counting away from the CPU to the right. One stick only, should go in slot two.

    Memory Upgrade question-image1.png





    Link to your motherboard manual PDF...
    https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...IME%20X370-PRO
    Oh I know, the two black slots are every other, same with the grey, so the old memory, two 8gb sticks, was in the two black slots, but now memory, new and old, in those slots isn't working, doesn't boot. But if I put the memory, the old then the new, into the other 2 slots, the grey, it works fine. Some reason the black slots have decided to say "Up yours!" and stop working. O.o Hopefully you can see in the picture the black and grey tabs, that's what I mean.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Memory Upgrade question-img_20230322_061223-resized.jpg  
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  6. Posts : 2,190
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #16

    I'm confused about what you are trying now. What RAM are you trying now? What slots are you putting them into.

    According to the manual if you have 2 sticks of RAM you put them into the two gray slots (A2&B2). The only time you use the two black slots is when you have 4 sticks of RAM.

    As you can see in the photo below I have two sticks of RAM in the two gray slots. These are the only slots I have ever used.

    Memory Upgrade question-ram.jpg
    Last edited by MisterEd; 22 Mar 2023 at 12:00.
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  7. Posts : 98
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    Thread Starter
       #17

    MisterEd said:
    I'm confused about what you are trying now. What RAM are you trying now? What slots are you putting them into.

    According to the manual if you have 2 sticks of RAM you put them into the two gray slots (A2&B2). The only time you use the two black slots is when you have 4 sticks of RAM.

    As you can see in the photo below I have two sticks of RAM in the two gray slots. These are the only slots I have ever used.

    Memory Upgrade question-ram.jpg
    Well, I was using the two black slots for the 8gbx2, when I swapped to the 16gbx2 it stopped working. So I had to switch to the two grey slots. And what do you mean the two black are just for 4 sticks? O.o As far as I've ever known, didn't matter which two you used, you just had to pair up the color, so two black or two grey but never one black and one grey. O.o
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  8. Posts : 4,187
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #18

    llloyd4 said:
    Well, I was using the two black slots for the 8gbx2, when I swapped to the 16gbx2 it stopped working. So I had to switch to the two grey slots. And what do you mean the two black are just for 4 sticks? O.o As far as I've ever known, didn't matter which two you used, you just had to pair up the color, so two black or two grey but never one black and one grey. O.o
    Yes, it does matter. Take a look at the image provided by Ghot on post #14. If you use only a single stick of memory it should go in slot DIMM_A2. For 2 sticks, they should populate slots DIMM_A2 and DIMM_B2. Only in the event that you are populating all 4 slots would you use the other two slots.
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  9. Posts : 2,190
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #19

    llloyd4 said:
    Well, I was using the two black slots for the 8gbx2, when I swapped to the 16gbx2 it stopped working. So I had to switch to the two grey slots. And what do you mean the two black are just for 4 sticks? O.o As far as I've ever known, didn't matter which two you used, you just had to pair up the color, so two black or two grey but never one black and one grey. O.o
    Actually it might not make any difference for the ASUS Prime X370-Pro motherboard. However, if you are having problems it is better to go by what it says in the manual. Otherwise, you are just assuming something that may or may not be true.

    BTW, in the other ASUS motherboard I have it doesn't make a difference as shown in the screenshot below.

    Memory Upgrade question-m4n82_dlx-v2-ram.jpg
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  10. Posts : 4,187
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #20

    These rules vary from MB to MB. Always consult the user guide for a MB to determine the requirements of that specific board.
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