Change disk management SSD's order

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  1. Posts : 1,191
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       #11

    ^ I agree it does not affect wear.... also drives do power down into sleep mode when they are not active people :hdd:.
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       #12

    NavyLCDR said:
    Whether it is disk 0 or disk 1 makes ZERO difference regarding wear and tear.
    I never said, or implied it did. I'll try to explain once again.

    1. I have 4 internal drives.
    2. Disk 0, my primary drive, gets the vast majority of use.
    3.. Two of the other drives are essentially clones of the primary drive.
    4. These other drives are for data backup only.
    5. Unless a data backup is being performed, these backup drive cables are manually disconnected from the drives, to protect them from any sort of virus invasion. Unplugged. Therefore, these backup drives remain dormant until the next backup procedure is undertaken.
    6. Given the years of use the primary disk has undergone, and along with the evidence of degradation to 98%, according to the Crystal Disk Info app, I decided to make my other SSD, Disk 1, the [B]primary/B] work disk.
    7. That meant swapping the disk positions.
    8. Now, the original primary disk will become Disk 1, a secondary disk, which means, unless a data backup is being performed, it will it not be in use, Unplugged. Dormant.
    9. The secondary disk, which has now become the primary, in the Disk 0 position, will now be the workhorse, assuming the duties of the former primary disk.
    10. It's a reasonable, sensible decision given the wear and tear endured by the former primary drive.

    I hope that clears things up. Please forgive the long winded explanation, but, under the circumstances, I felt it was necessary, given the initial responses to my posts,

    I look forward to hearing form you.
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  3. Posts : 4,601
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       #13

    It is easier to say you want to swap to using a different os disk.
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  4. TV2
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       #14

    It doesn't matter if the disk you want to boot and run from is Disk 0, 1, or 6. It only matters which disk is being booted from.
    That is a different question and a different procedure than swapping data cables.

    The system looks for the disk that has the Windows Boot Manager on it and boots from that. If you want to change which copy of the OS that you want to run from then that is what you should be asking.
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       #15

    TV2 said:
    It doesn't matter if the disk you want to boot and run from is Disk 0, 1, or 6. It only matters which disk is being booted from.

    That is a different question and a different procedure than swapping data cables.

    The system looks for the disk that has the Windows Boot Manager on it and boots from that. If you want to change which copy of the OS that you want to run from then that is what you should be asking.
    Hi TV2,

    Sorry I didn't ask the right questions. I thought the info I provided would be clear about what I am trying to accomplish, and lead to the answers I was looking for.

    Even tho I'm still gonna have to deal somehow with that encrypted partition I mentioned earlier, can you tell me how to determine "which copy of the OS that you want to run from"?

    Does this have anything to do with it?

    Change disk management SSD's order-boot.png

    Will adjusting for that make it Disk 0? I would prefer that. Or would I still have to swap cables to get that done?
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       #16

    No. that is boot menu entry that points at macrium pe that you have built.
    Typically located at "%systemdrive%\boot\macrium\WinREFiles\media\sources\boot.wim"

    If you want to do it sensibly, post a screenshot of disk management with all disks attached.

    If the 100% disk you now want to make primary has an esp partition with the boot critical files, the logical thing is to set that first in bios boot order.

    If it doesnt already have an esp partition you can create one and populate it with the boot critical files.

    [Some bios are flexible and will locate the boot critical files just about anywhere, but we wont get into that. Best to do it the standard way ]
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  7. Posts : 4,601
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       #17

    You can set the order in bios

    Change disk management SSD's order-biosbootmenu1.jpg

    dble click on it and select from the dropdown. Then Save and Exit.

    Change disk management SSD's order-biosbootmenu2.jpg

    Another way is to do it from within windows, for example like this:

    Change disk management SSD's order-dism-efi0.jpg

    Change disk management SSD's order-dism-efi3.jpg

    Change disk management SSD's order-dism-efi4.jpg
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  8. Posts : 18,424
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       #18

    I think I see what you want to do. Here is my disk management:
    Change disk management SSD's order-capture2.jpg

    So, my disk 0 is my data disk, disk 1 is my system disk. What you are asking how to do is make my disk 0 my system disk, so it gets all the activity (the primary disk) and make my disk 1 my data disk (secondary disk). That has nothing to do with positions in disk management. That has to do with which disks the partitions are on. You have to move the partitions to the other disks, you don't change the disk order in disk management.

    My computer is currently booting from and running Windows from disk 1. If I want to boot from and run Windows from disk 0, then I would have move the EFI System Partition and the Windows partition from disk 1 to disk 0. I think you might have had the idea that the system disk (primary disk as you call it) had to be disk 0. It does not have to be. It can be any disk in the order.
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  9. Posts : 971
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       #19

    NavyLCDR said:
    I think I see what you want to do. If I want to boot from and run Windows from disk 0, then I would have move the EFI System Partition
    Yes, I originally thought Disk 0 had to be the "primary" boot. That was very helpful.

    I kinda gave up idea of doing anything on the subject for a while, but after consulting with Veracrypt recently, along with the advice I got here, I was able to do the Disk "conversions", and accomplish all the changes I was looking for.

    It was actually pretty simple, as is often the case when you're finally able to interpret & comprehend the technical jargon. Sometimes it takes a while to sink in.

    For all intents and purposes, "Disk 0" and "Disk" 1 have flip-flopped roles, each one has taken on the look and structure of the other. Turns out Veracrypt has simple method of re-designating the drive letters for each encrypted volume. Then, it was just a matter of reassigning/reversing the drive letters for the non-encrypted data partitions.

    Looking at disk management, you wouldn't know anything changed

    Change disk management SSD's order-disks.png

    After I did so, I still wanted to my boot drive to be '0". After disconnecting what is now my secondary drive, I switched it's cable to my primary drive, just to see what would happen. Restarted, and now my primary drive is Disk 0. Mission accomplished.

    I don't want to bore you with all the details, but if anyone is interested I'll be happy to discuss.

    Thanks to everyone for all the advice
    Last edited by kitpzyxmsir; 29 Apr 2023 at 11:14.
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