Safe Removal of Desktop HDD


  1. Posts : 22
    W10
       #1

    Safe Removal of Desktop HDD


    Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64-based Systems.
    A flash drive draws power from the PC so it makes sense regarding removal. Safe Removal works first time, every time.

    Is it necessary to Safely Remove an externally powered HDD? Sometimes ‘Safe Removal’ in system tray will work, mostly not.
    Sometimes shortcut I created ‘Safely Remove Hardware’ works, mostly not. Message says it is in use, although everything is closed down, except for the fact the HDD is plugged into the PC!

    A search here on W10 “Go to Control Panel/Hardware and Sound* then right click on the external, and press Remove Device”. Don’t have this, now *Devices & Printers, but if I Remove Device presumably PC will not recognise HDD next time I plug it in.

    Thanks for any help.
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  2. Posts : 380
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #2

    hi there

    in all my years i have never used "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" BUT when i remove my external HDD i at least wait for the lights go out and USB's i just pull them out and have had zero issues.

    nearly all of these devices are suitable for "hot" plugin or out now a days.
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  3. Posts : 4,679
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
       #3

    If you have quick removal enabled from Device Manager which is enabled by default, no need to worry about Safe Removal i always disconnect my external drive without Safe Removal because of quick removal enabled.

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  4. Posts : 22
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Rooscoota thanks for the reply. I have been using a Maxtor HDD for years and never knew about this Safe Removal until a recent purchase of a 2nd desktop HDD!

    FreeBooter, from my questions you will know my knowledge is somewhat limited and poor memory doesn’t help!

    Windows 10 default media removal policy - Windows Client Management | Microsoft Docs

    You can change the policy setting for each external device, and the policy that you set remains in effect if you disconnect the device and then connect it again to the same computer port.
    So it’s USB port/device specific, rather than setting all USB ports the same.

    • Quick removal - This policy manages storage operations in a manner that keeps the device ready to remove at any time. You can remove the device without using the Safely Remove Hardware process. However, to do this, Windows cannot cache disk write operations. This may degrade system performance.
    By degrade does this just mean it is slower, or is the integrity of data on device at risk?

    • Better performance - This policy manages storage operations in a manner that improves system performance. When this policy is in effect, Windows can cache write operations to the external device. However, you must use the Safely Remove Hardware process to remove the external drive. The Safely Remove Hardware process protects the integrity of data on the device by making sure that all cached operations finish.
    Is this why Safe Removal doesn’t work, because all cached operations haven’t finished, even though all windows are closed? What tells you they have finished?
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  5. Posts : 4,679
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
       #5

    From Device Manager, expend Disk drives and right-click the external drive and select Properties and from Policies tab make sure to enable Quick removal (default).

    The Quick removal (default) setting, just a safety feature in your external drive its use for as the name says quick removal of externally attached device with little effect on speed of the device.
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  6. TV2
    Posts : 2,090
    W10 Pro 21H2
       #6

    JW05 said:


    • Quick removal - This policy manages storage operations in a manner that keeps the device ready to remove at any time. You can remove the device without using the Safely Remove Hardware process. However, to do this, Windows cannot cache disk write operations. This may degrade system performance.
    By degrade does this just mean it is slower, or is the integrity of data on device at risk?[/B]
    It means it slows system performance, slowing the PC down.

    JW05 said:
    • Better performance - This policy manages storage operations in a manner that improves system performance. When this policy is in effect, Windows can cache write operations to the external device. However, you must use the Safely Remove Hardware process to remove the external drive. The Safely Remove Hardware process protects the integrity of data on the device by making sure that all cached operations finish.
    Is this why Safe Removal doesn’t work, because all cached operations haven’t finished, even though all windows are closed? What tells you they have finished?
    Generally, Yes.

    Windows has always been finicky about releasing USB attached external storage drives. It's not so much that the cache writing isn't finished, it's just that the fact that it is isn't communicated to the system properly.

    One problem that has cropped up when these drives are just disconnected anyway is that there can be a setting of the "dirty bit" which can cause some annoying problems - but nothing serious (like losing data).
    Dirty Bit: What Is It & How to Set/Clear/Reset It

    Whenever Windows won't 'release' an external drive on my system I just restart the PC. This forces the caching to finish and clears all running processes. Quick, easy, and avoids any problems later.
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  7. Posts : 22
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Many thanks to all.
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