HDD vs SSD or HDD/SSD

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    There's consumer-grade "sub par" build quality laptops that can be viewed as being overpriced due to being too cheaply made to be worth (i.e., "buy cheap, buy twice") and there's the type of affordable and excellent value for money consumer laptops that borrow "prosumer-grade" build quality design concepts. The front bezel around the screen is plastic and so is the bottom cover, but all the rest is still nevertheless aluminum and the bottom cover is reinforced along the interior side of the laptop, cleverly, with a light sheetmetal bracer that, in turn, is heavily reinforced by the thick metal spacers that hold all the little steel screws in place. So, warping/cracking doesn't easily occur, even though it isn't the same as the corporate type stuff that can be thrown into the trunk of the leased car from a very far distance and then it still wouldn't break.

    Recently, a friend bought the HP Envy 17 inch with the spiffing 4k OLED screen and 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Core i7-1195G7 at 1499 Euros. I mean, the lasered Bang & Olufsen logo on top really does look incredibly shiny, and, the Envy really does live up to its name. But I paid only 885.86 Euros in total, in spite of the fact that I have been enjoying my laptop for already 15 months and a half, even though you won't hear me say that the HP is overpriced, as it isn't my money, so I'm not in the position to judge. If, by chance, you happen to be loaded, then who am I to stop you from going for fully loaded! lol

    Speaking of 32GB or 64GB RAM, admittedly I haven't really looked at prices in recent months, but I have a feeling that that's going to be a bit of a costly affair right now. Here's the link to the 16GB kit that I bought one week after Cyber Monday last year at 57.86 Euros: Amazon.de

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    Almost done with online comparative shopping for hopefully my last PC (approaching 80 yrs. old). Preferences: HP brand (preferably Pavillion...not strictly), W11, no less than 32 RAM/1TB SSD, Intel core latest generation, backlit keyboard, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, optical drive (optional), high resolution/anti-glare, low bluelight display (optional), fingerprint reader (quasi-optional). Price: 1 grand or a few hundreds more or less. Big question: Why touch screen? What can screen touching do that multi-code touch pad can't? (The only time I touch screen is to wipe dirt away).
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       #63

    coolnewyorker said:
    Almost done with online comparative shopping for hopefully my last PC (approaching 80 yrs. old). Preferences: HP brand (preferably Pavillion...not strictly), W11, no less than 32 RAM/1TB SSD, Intel core latest generation, backlit keyboard, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, optical drive (optional), high resolution/anti-glare, low bluelight display (optional), fingerprint reader (quasi-optional). Price: 1 grand or a few hundreds more or less. Big question: Why touch screen? What can screen touching do that multi-code touch pad can't? (The only time I touch screen is to wipe dirt away).
    You may be overly optimistic about price. An inexpensive desktop (https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/Config...Id=&quantity=1) with mont of your specs is over $1100US. That's with a 10th generation CPU (latest is 12th), and no monitor.

    It may be a while before Gen12 Intel CPUs become available in (relatively) inexpensive appliance PCs.
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    I am happy with 11th generation. My immediate concern is touch screen because I am not sure if I want/need it. I am actually uncomfy with the idea of touching the screen. When do geeks touch the screen instead of just using the touch pad?
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    coolnewyorker said:
    I am happy with 11th generation. My immediate concern is touch screen because I am not sure if I want/need it. I am actually uncomfy with the idea of touching the screen. When do geeks touch the screen instead of just using the touch pad?
    I don't know about geeks. Touch screens are the rule on smart phones and tablet computers (e. g., iPads), mostly used by non-geeks. I'm not sure what you mean by "touch pad" in the context of a desktop PC. I'm thinking of the track pads that are common on laptops. There are also pads like those made by Wacom, for use by artists and other content creators. (With a stylus.)

    I prefer mouse and keyboard, wired.
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    bobkn said:
    I don't know about geeks. Touch screens are the rule on smart phones and tablet computers (e. g., iPads), mostly used by non-geeks. I'm not sure what you mean by "touch pad" in the context of a desktop PC. I'm thinking of the track pads that are common on laptops. There are also pads like those made by Wacom, for use by artists and other content creators. (With a stylus.)

    I prefer mouse and keyboard, wired.

    Phones and tablets do not have touchpad. I never had desktop, only laptop. And I prefer touchpad over mouse. I still do not know what touching screen accomplishes that using touchpad or mouse does not. Btw, I am not intending to buy desktop, only laptop. Oh, touchpad is also called trackpad. It is built-in tactile sensor pointing device, like a mouse which is wired or wireless external device.
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       #67

    bobkn said:
    I'm not sure what you mean by "touch pad" in the context of a desktop PC.
    Industrial 6 inch desktop touchpad | NSI
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       #68

    This is touchpad (or trackpad) on laptops

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    Speaking of touchpad, I do not understand why many laptop users prefer mouse over touchpad.
    Last edited by coolnewyorker; 18 Apr 2022 at 03:45. Reason: additional comment
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       #69

    coolnewyorker said:
    Speaking of touchpad, I do not understand why many laptop users prefer mouse over touchpad.
    It's extremly difficult for example to deal headshots with a touchpad.
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    coolnewyorker said:
    This is touchpad (or trackpad) on laptops

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    Speaking of touchpad, I do not understand why many laptop users prefer mouse over touchpad.
    Lots of reasons e.g.

    Dexterity - if you have the slightest sign of arthritis, a mouse is much easier.

    Many grew up using mouse, and gestures are not natural.

    Touch pad is too small compare with a mouse mat.

    I do use it now and then for two finger scrolling (reversing default to be same as mouse scroll), but thereafter, I prefer mouse.

    Easier to precisely place cursor using mouse when editing text.

    In the end, everybody's needs differ.
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