Windows and Drive health (life)

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  1. Posts : 107
    Windows 7/8.1/10
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    Windows and Drive health (life)


    I recently had a very unusual encounter with Windows 10 and a large file which I was downloading.

    After the large 500MB+ file finished downloading using an download manager, I noticed the file wasn't saved in the pre-selected drive (D). It was on C drive.

    I then went to move the file to D but I wasn't able to. I tried to rename the file because it was a long name, but I couldn't.

    I suspected maybe malware so I ran a malware scan, nothing was found.

    I used a utility called Lockhunter and it didn't show the file was locked in any way. I then proceeded to boot into Safe Mode. I couldn't delete the file or rename it.

    I then used a File Shredder utility that uses predefined algorithms. I used DoD to make many passes. This deleted the file.

    However, upon rebooting to NORMAL Windows, my third party drive monitoring utility immediately gave me an error that my NVMe drive health dropped from 100% to 99% just like that, after reboot and deleting the problematic file.

    My NVMe drive and laptop are less than 6 months old. The amount of terabyte writes (TBW) on the drive are few — 2.6TB. I searched online any many users have their SSDs/NVMe for many years with hundreds of TBW. Yet they still have 100% drive health when using these utilities..

    My results are consistent amongst the different applications mentioned in that post. The normal "response" from what I have seen is SSD/NVMes have limited number of TBW but in my situation, that doesn't seem to apply as I am no where near the limitations and others with 100% health far exceed 2.6 TBW.

    As such, does anyone have any insight what could've "locked" this file and why it couldn't be removed even though Lock Hunter didn't identify the file as being locked. just the opposite.

    I also learned something that NVMe drives have "spares" a certain number of areas on the drive that are used when necessary. In my case, my 500 GB drive only has 10 spares. Using one (out of ten spares) caused the health of my drive to drop 1%. No other issues were found when I tested the NVMe extensively with many third party drive utilites and Windows too.

    Finally, what would've happened if I left the file alone, would Windows eventually be able to "fix" it on it's own? I want to avoid this situation in the future and I would rather not go nuclear and reinstall Windows.
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  2. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #2

    Large file writes can shorten the life of an SSD, even the SATA ones.

    Can you screenshot the results of CrystalDiskInfo or HD Sentinel?
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  3. Posts : 107
    Windows 7/8.1/10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for the reply. Here are some screenshots.
    Windows and Drive health (life)-screenshot-2021-09-27-175242.jpgWindows and Drive health (life)-capture.pngWindows and Drive health (life)-had-drive-sentinel-screenshot.jpg
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  4. Posts : 1,777
    Windows 11 [21H2]
       #4

    Sammy888 said:
    Thanks for the reply. Here are some screenshots.
    Windows and Drive health (life)-screenshot-2021-09-27-175242.jpgWindows and Drive health (life)-capture.pngWindows and Drive health (life)-had-drive-sentinel-screenshot.jpg
    The drive is on excellent state. Do not worry with it.
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  5. Posts : 31,621
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    Sammy888 said:
    I then used a File Shredder utility that uses predefined algorithms. I used DoD to make many passes. This deleted the file.
    For future reference, you really should avoid making many writes to the same locations like this, it's really hard on the cells involved. This sort of DoD technique is designed for use on HDDs where residual magnetism could leave an outside chance of recovering erased data, not SSDs where NAND storage works quite differently. A single pass should have been enough.
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  6. Posts : 107
    Windows 7/8.1/10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Bree said:
    For future reference, you really should avoid making many writes to the same locations like this, it's really hard on the cells involved. This sort of DoD technique is designed for use on HDDs where residual magnetism could leave an outside chance of recovering erased data, not SSDs where NAND storage works quite differently. A single pass should have been enough.
    Yes. Lesson learned. I won't be using Fileshredder on NVMe drive in any case. But it was either that or reformat the drive.

    How is the single pass different from a standard delete? And what methods do you suggest to remove a file? Booting in safemode and as regular (myself Admin) and the separate Administrator profile didn't work.

    Of course, I'd like to know how this happened in the first place, but removal is more important right now.
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  7. Posts : 31,621
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    Sammy888 said:
    ...what methods do you suggest to remove a file?

    Usually it is sufficient to boot from something else, other than the installed OS. I generally boot to a command prompt from a Windows install USB, then delete 'problem' files from the command prompt. You could use a Linux Live USB for the same purpose.
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  8. Posts : 107
    Windows 7/8.1/10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Bree said:
    Usually it is sufficient to boot from something else, other than the installed OS. I generally boot to a command prompt from a Windows install USB, then delete 'problem' files from the command prompt. You could use a Linux Live USB for the same purpose.
    Thanks. I have an Acronis USB that I think might work. Otherwise, I'd have to buy another USB. I'm not familiar with Linux or Linux Live but I'll give it a try.
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  9. Posts : 4,565
    several
       #9

    If that nvme has a 300tbw rating, you would expect it to show 99% after about 3tb . It seems just a little previous.

    Windows and Drive health (life)-sentinel.jpg
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  10. Posts : 16,931
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #10

    Sammy888 said:
    And what methods do you suggest to remove a file?
    See my ditty about using RoboCopy to clear out a rogue file - TenForums


    All the best,
    Denis
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