Keyboards - Change of Function

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  1. Posts : 2,541
    Win 11 x 64 Home on PC and Win 11 Home x 64 on Surface 9
       #1

    Keyboards - Change of Function


    I have tried 3 keyboards all the same. I use the keys Alt Gr and 'letter' to form a little stroke above a letter. My grandsons name has two in his name. All of a sudden this function is no longer working. I use, by preference, an original microsoft multimedia keyboard 1.0a (I have 2) which had always worked perfectly. I also tried another keyboard, a mechanical gaming one, the same effect. I imagine the problem then is software not physical.

    This is not the first time windows has altered something without my doing. Ideas please on where to check? The keyboard is a PS2 socket but currently on a USB converter, but this is not the problem.

    Did a reboot no change.

    Found 2 new updates, installed them, and the keys started working again! Now gone again!!
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  2. Posts : 16,910
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #2

    I have no solution but do have a workaround suggestion.

    I list all my foreign language characters in a Note within MS Office Outlook. I copy them from there when I want them
    Keyboards - Change of Function-foreign-characters.jpg

    I could equally well use a text file but I find Outlook convenient because it is always running.
    Foreign characters.txt
    Code:
    Á á À à Â â
    Ç ç
    É é È è Ê ê
    Î î Í í 
    Ó ó Ô ô
    œ
    Ú ú Ù ù Û û
    These shortcuts work in Word & in Outlook Calendar, Emails, Contacts [Notes field only]
    Á á Ctrl' {on the @ key} then A/a
    À à Ctrl` {on the top-left triple key} then A/a
    Ç ç Ctrl, then C/c
    - - - - - - - - - - -
    Ä ä Ctrl: then A/a
    Ö ö Ctrl: then O/o
    Ü ü Ctrl: then U/u
    ß     Ctrl& then s
    The shortcuts work in Word & in Outlook Calendar, Emails, Contacts [Notes field only]
    - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Symbols
    therefore ∴ Alt-t [Word only] 
    infinity ∞


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  3. Posts : 132
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4291
       #3

    Do you use the Microsoft UK Extended Keyboard? It's still QWERTY, but far easier to call up foreign characters. I live in France but find find using their AZERTY keyboard extremely difficult (I'm a lousy typist even with a QWERTY), so this is a great solution for me to type accented characters! Maybe you did have that keyboard set as default previously but a Windows Update has modified your choice?
    Type French accents in Windows - Lawless French Typing Tips
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  4. Posts : 13,985
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #4

    I recently changed an SSD in a Notebook that came from North of me in Canada and noted the Canadian English language on it had some different marks, didn't pay much attention to which but installed US English and Canada English so she could change as desired. The Notebook had both English and French labels on it. Her husband was just cleared to go back home a week ago and haven't heard yet how she likes it.
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  5. Posts : 1,753
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #5

    An alternative is to use AutoHotkey's 'hotstrings' for auto-replacement of text.

    (I use them all the time in an AutoHotkey script that I have running all the time to check and correct what I'm typing. I constantly mistype doesn;t instead of doesn't... so I have a line that watches for the mispelling and automatically corrects it.)

    So, for example, say your grandson's name was Mátyás, i.e. with 2 diacritics. Now consider the following tiny AutoHotkey one-liner:

    Code:
    :*:@mk::Mátyás
    Translating this into English, it just means "whenever @mk is typed, immediately change it to Mátyás".

    To see this in action, watch the GIF below as the following 4 'hotstrings' that I have defined in an AHK script are expanded (auto-replaced) whenever I type them.

    First, the example code:

    Code:
    ::hth::Hope this helps...
    :*:@mk::Mátyás
    ::syl::See you later
    :*:@now::
        {
        FormatTime, TimeString,, dd-MMM-yyyy
        SendInput, %TimeString%:%A_Tab%
        }
    ::doesn;t::doesn't

    With this AHK script running I can now type in Notepad (but it could be anything - Word, email, it doesn't matter) and my hotstrings are automatically expanded:

    Keyboards - Change of Function-hotstring_replacement_example.jpg

    My always-running AHK script auto-inserts my extremely long email address (which I constantly mistype doing it manually) by just typing @@, my home address (@me) and various salutations (like ys auto-expanding to Yours sincerely,)

    You could use this method for automatically adding diacritics, irrespective of what keyboard you used... and more. I'm happy to provide further info if needed.

    Hope this helps...
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  6. Posts : 2,541
    Win 11 x 64 Home on PC and Win 11 Home x 64 on Surface 9
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Pacman23 said:
    Do you use the Microsoft UK Extended Keyboard? It's still QWERTY, but far easier to call up foreign characters. I live in France but find find using their AZERTY keyboard extremely difficult (I'm a lousy typist even with a QWERTY), so this is a great solution for me to type accented characters! Maybe you did have that keyboard set as default previously but a Windows Update has modified your choice?
    Type French accents in Windows - Lawless French Typing Tips
    The keyboard is qwerty, yes. It has worked fine until yesterday. When I put the Alt Gr key down, then A, I get nothing at all; lift the Alt Gr and hit 'a', I get 'a'
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  7. Posts : 2,541
    Win 11 x 64 Home on PC and Win 11 Home x 64 on Surface 9
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Sorry about delays in replying. I have been running tests on 4 diff keyboards and running software deletions/reboots to no avail. The problem is within windows as far as I can tell. As I approach 72; my memory (and keyboards) see to be lapsing into neverspeak. Space and missing letters are becoming more apparent. Whether this is an 18 year old me in an ancient body is not yet known. I have even ordered a new 'machine' keyboard in the hope it will have identifiable software (red dragon) that may set things right. Some of it may be me, I still type as fast as I did years ago (yeah right) but suspect my eyes are not as fast as my fingers. I suspect a lot but it does not explain the anomaly on the Alt Gr/A. This is not as important as I think, as my wife said, I bet Faelan (grandson no 2) does not care.
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  8. Posts : 4,453
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #8

    A stupid question: what language is listed for Win10?

    For me, it's US English. None of my keyboards include the Alt Gr key.
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  9. Posts : 132
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4291
       #9

    elbmek said:
    The keyboard is qwerty, yes. It has worked fine until yesterday. When I put the Alt Gr key down, then A, I get nothing at all; lift the Alt Gr and hit 'a', I get 'a'
    So what is your default Windows keyboard?

    Set Default Keyboard Input Language in Windows 10
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  10. Posts : 2,541
    Win 11 x 64 Home on PC and Win 11 Home x 64 on Surface 9
    Thread Starter
       #10

    English UK is my language. Sorry not been here, working on various potential solutions nothing working as yet. It is a very minor problem in relation to the massive situations seen in here, but if something is wrong, then its broke!
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