Cannot initialize IDE hd on PC with installed ASUS SATA mobo


  1. Posts : 4
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    Cannot initialize IDE hd on PC with installed ASUS SATA mobo


    This subject has been mentioned on some old topics. That is why I am opening a new one.

    I have an old desktop PC that I want to offer. It has WIN 10 installed, it works fine, but is rather slow maybe due to old mother board Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L.
    Also connected to it there was an external drive Seagate ST33208820A encased in an Iomega box. It is also old but works perfectly.

    It happens that I purchased a private assembled PC running WIN 10 version 20H2 equipped with an ASUS mobo P8Z77-V. The mentioned external Seagate drive is not seen in this PC.
    I made some searching and apparently the reason for that is that the ASUS mobo has only SATA ports and the drive has an IDE port.

    In an attempt to keep the drive (it has a capacity of 320Gb) I did the following.
    - Dismounted drive from Iomega case.
    - Purchased a GEMBIRD Bi-directional SATA/IDE converter as shown here:

    Bi-directional SATA/IDE converter (SATA-IDE-2)

    - I mounted the converter into case of desktop. After power on the disk appears in Device Manager and Disk Manager. It is numbered in Disk M. and a box pops up to get it initialized. Given the OK a message appears saying UNKOWN DEVICE. If a search of NEW HARDWARE is asked in Device M. the disk disappears. After power OFF and ON of PC, disk appears again. Repeating the process it disappears again.
    Note - Jumper of IDE drive was placed as MASTER and SLAVE. Both positions did not work and did not show any difference.

    - In one old topic of the forum it is suggested that connecting power via molex cables to converter board and also disk would solve problem because power supplied only via converter board would not be enough. But it did not. It shows the same sequence of events as reported above.

    - I installed on ASUS mobo a PCI board used in old PC, where it works without a problem, but results were exactly the same as with the converter. Cables were correctly connected.

    Now I am out of options and wonder. Is it possible that GEMBIRD converter is not good enough? Though it was not expensive I do not wish buying another one without being sure it solves problem. PCI board, supposedly would feed enough power to disk, was my last hope to solve issue.
    Maybe it is worthwhile to give up usage of the disk with new PC and when needed purchase a SATA driver.

    Is there another possibility?
    I'll appreciate comments on this subject.
    Thank you.

    Old post "IDE drive to SATA host" IDE drive to SATA host
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  2. Posts : 23,258
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    @P VELHO 34

    I think it's probably a BIOS setting. It's probably set to AHCI rather than IDE.
    I can find many tutorials for changing from IDE to AHCI after Windows is installed.
    But I can't seem to find any for switching from AHCI to IDE, after Windows is installed.


    In your BIOS you CAN set the SATA Controller to IDE, but, since Windows is already installed, you need to make some registry edits to Windows itself.

    Cannot initialize IDE hd on PC with installed ASUS SATA mobo-image1.png





    The two registry keys that need to be changed are these. But I don't know what to change them... to.

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorV\Start

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorV\StartOverride\0




    You would have to change the registry keys to the proper values, then reboot, enter the BIOS and change the
    SATA Mode Selection to IDE.





    /edit

    It would be easier and smarter, just to get a new external hard drive, like this...
    It's USB 3.0 It will work on both computers. (both motherboards have USB connectors).

    Western Digital Elements 1 TB External Hard Drive (WDBUZG0010BBK-WESN) - PCPartPicker

    Disco Externo 2.5" Western Digital Elements 1TB USB 3.0 Preto | PCDIGA


    Switching from AHCI to IDE will slow down your Windows drive, among other things.
    Get a new external drive, and after transferring everything, just sell the old 320 GB external.



    /edit 2
    @Brink may know the registry values. But I would just get a new external hard drive.
    Last edited by Ghot; 17 May 2021 at 17:09.
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  3. Posts : 4
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    Thread Starter
       #3

    Ghot said:
    @P VELHO 34

    I think it's probably a BIOS setting. It's probably set to AHCI rather than IDE.
    I can find many tutorials for changing from IDE to AHCI after Windows is installed.
    But I can't seem to find any for switching from AHCI to IDE, after Windows is installed.


    In your BIOS you CAN set the SATA Controller to IDE, but, since Windows is already installed, you need to make some registry edits to Windows itself.

    Cannot initialize IDE hd on PC with installed ASUS SATA mobo-image1.png





    The two registry keys that need to be changed are these. But I don't know what to change them... to.

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorV\Start

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStorV\StartOverride\0




    You would have to change the registry keys to the proper values, then reboot, enter the BIOS and change the
    SATA Mode Selection to IDE.





    /edit

    It would be easier and smarter, just to get a new external hard drive, like this...
    It's USB 3.0 It will work on both computers. (both motherboards have USB connectors).

    Western Digital Elements 1 TB External Hard Drive (WDBUZG0010BBK-WESN) - PCPartPicker

    Disco Externo 2.5" Western Digital Elements 1TB USB 3.0 Preto | PCDIGA


    Switching from AHCI to IDE will slow down your Windows drive, among other things.
    Get a new external drive, and after transferring everything, just sell the old 320 GB external.



    /edit 2
    @Brink may know the registry values. But I would just get a new external hard drive.
    Many thanks for your valuable information. I have learnt a lot.
    I would attempt to go about changing settings but I don't want to slow windows plus other possible issues.
    Getting a new HD when I need one, that´s what I'll do, follow your advice.
    As matter of fact when Seagate drive was connected to old PC I transferred all data. It took some time but was done there. Afterwards drive was cleaned and formatted.
    Thanks again.
    Issue solved.
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  4. Posts : 23,258
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
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    P VELHO 34 said:
    Many thanks for your valuable information. I have learnt a lot.
    I would attempt to go about changing settings but I don't want to slow windows plus other possible issues.
    Getting a new HD when I need one, that´s what I'll do, follow your advice.
    As matter of fact when Seagate drive was connected to old PC I transferred all data. It took some time but was done there. Afterwards drive was cleaned and formatted.
    Thanks again.
    Issue solved.


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