How to create - or convert - partitions in a Legacy MBR/BIOS setup

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    pw 9.1 linux iso will work if your machine isn't too recent. The paragon linux iso from their free rescue kit 14 can also be useful for some things - but only if the machine isn't too recent.
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    SIW2 said:
    pw 9.1 linux iso will work if your machine isn't too recent. The paragon linux iso from their free rescue kit 14 can also be useful for some things - but only if the machine isn't too recent.


    This 9.0 version also has a Linux boot loader and it works fine. My comp is brand new May 2020.
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    SIW2 said:
    pw 9.1 linux iso will work if your machine isn't too recent. The paragon linux iso from their free rescue kit 14 can also be useful for some things - but only if the machine isn't too recent.


    This 9.0 version also has a Linux boot loader and it works fine. My comp is brand new May 2020.
    AMD 3700X and an ASUS X570 chipset motherboard.



    @br1anstorm

    The link @Bree gave in post #17 is all you will need to handle all the partitioning on your laptop.
    So you don't even have to install PW.
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    I had to make boot media recently for users of the new 11th gen laptops from dell and acer. The old PW linux iso is unlikely to support those. I think the latest version of parted magic does. Current Windows 10 pe doesn't yet, maybe the next version 21h1 or whatever it is called will.
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    SIW2 said:
    I had to make boot media recently for users of the 11th gen laptops from dell and acer. The old PW linux iso is unlikely to support those. I think the latest version of parted magic does.


    Yeah, I don't DO laptops. I always felt I'd break it if I had one.
    I don't even DO midtower cases for the same reason.

    I'm on 19043.985 (21H1)
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    Yeah, I don't DO laptops.
    Me neither, but a lot of people do.
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       #27

    Well, we're diving deeper down the rabbit hole now!

    I did a bit of hunting around.... and it turns out I have a bootable disk of Minitool Partition Wizard 8.1.1. I think I made it back in the days of WinXP, and I've never used it in anger. But it certainly boots up on the T430 laptop, and seems to play nicely. As the laptop is configured with Legacy/MBR, working with GPT is not an issue.

    Since I started dual booting with (and learning about) Linux, I have really only worked with GParted when any partitioning was required. It seems as if either PW or Gparted can delete, extend or move partitions ...which is fine.

    The interesting thing is that PW offers an option to convert a primary partition to a logical one. So might I, should I, just convert the existing Q: partition (sda2) which is the apparently redundant Win7 Recovery partition, to a logical one? What would happen to the numbering? The converted partition would surely become sda5, and then there would be no sda2? Would the existing C: drive (sda3) change to sda2, and the unlabelled recovery drive become sda3? Or would they remain unaltered, and would that matter?

    I realise this is revealing the limits to my knowledge and experience: I'm still in the"check three times, measure twice... " mode before I decide which way to cut, as I am aware there are risks in messing with partitions.
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    br1anstorm said:
    Well, we're diving deeper down the rabbit hole now!

    I did a bit of hunting around.... and it turns out I have a bootable disk of Minitool Partition Wizard 8.1.1. I think I made it back in the days of WinXP, and I've never used it in anger. But it certainly boots up on the T430 laptop, and seems to play nicely. As the laptop is configured with Legacy/MBR, working with GPT is not an issue.

    Since I started dual booting with (and learning about) Linux, I have really only worked with GParted when any partitioning was required. It seems as if either PW or Gparted can delete, extend or move partitions ...which is fine.

    The interesting thing is that PW offers an option to convert a primary partition to a logical one. So might I, should I, just convert the existing Q: partition (sda2) which is the apparently redundant Win7 Recovery partition, to a logical one? What would happen to the numbering? The converted partition would surely become sda5, and then there would be no sda2? Would the existing C: drive (sda3) change to sda2, and the unlabelled recovery drive become sda3? Or would they remain unaltered, and would that matter?

    I realise this is revealing the limits to my knowledge and experience: I'm still in the"check three times, measure twice... " mode before I decide which way to cut, as I am aware there are risks in messing with partitions.



    You don't really "need" more primary partitions... you need more... space.
    That's why we were deleting D: and Q:

    Currently you only have 61% free, on the C: drive. Gaining that extra 12.55 GB from Q: would be really helpful.



    I don't know how you "use" your laptop. Keep in mind that when you're done doing all this... you need a minimum of 15% free space on C:, just to keep Windows 10 happy.

    So if you're not gonna go crazy installing things on Windows 10...then sure, just convert Q: to a logical partition.

    Then you can just shrink C: by say 40-50GB for your Linux distro.
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  9. Posts : 2,799
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    @br1anstorm
    The golden rule is when messing around with partitions, you should always make a backup image of the current disk.
    With that said, I recommend using Macrium Reflect to make a backup and create a Macrium Rescue disk.

    Assuming you are taking my advice to making a backup image.
    Now, use it to restore only selected partition(s) + Create a 40GB partition for Linux with just Macrium,
    you do not need any third party partition manager
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    topgundcp said:
    @br1anstorm
    The golden rule is when messing around with partitions, you should always make a backup image of the current disk.
    With that said, I recommend using Macrium Reflect to make a backup and create a Macrium Rescue disk.

    Assuming you are taking my advice to making a backup image.
    Now, use it to restore only selected partition(s) + Create a 40GB partition for Linux with just Macrium,
    you do not need any third party partition manager



    I put a link for the Macrium Reflect bootable ISO in post #18
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