Cannot boot from USB drives anymore since "fixing" hard drives.

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  1. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
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    Cannot boot from USB drives anymore since "fixing" hard drives.


    It had been over a year since I made a clone of my Windows 10 SSD drive, so I decided to update the backup. The backup is another SSD that's sitting on the shelf. I can unplug my current one, plug in the backup, and boot up with everything matching (installed programs, persinalization, etc).

    However, before updating the backup I was in DISK MANAGEMENT and noticed the hidden System Reserved partition was "Active". Being completely ignorant, I thought "that doesn't sound right; my C: drive has Windows 10 on it. That should be active!" Being a complete idiot, I right-clicked the C: partition, made it Active, and rebooted.

    Drive won't boot!

    I plugged in the backup and it worked fine. Searching the issue online, I discover this is a common, stupid mistake, and read a support thread that said to use a Macrium USB boot drive to 1-click fix all the MBR issues. I did, and it worked! The drive loaded Windows, and all was good. Back to normal:


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    Plugged in:
    • SSD Drive (Windows and Games partition)
    • Windows 10 Installer USB drive


    But since this incident, suddenly I can no longer boot from USB drives just by sticking them in and restarting!

    They still work and I can see them when I plug them in. I just can't boot the PC from them. The computer always loads Windows 10 on the SSD drive first!

    Part of fixing the drive involved sticking in the original Windows 10 installer USB drive, booting from it, and clicking the REPAIR WINDOWS button to try to fix the drive (it didn't work). Next I plugged in and booted from the Macrium USB drive, and that one did work. Now, no USB drives boot because the BIOS (or UEFI, as they're apparantly called now) keeps putting the Windows Boot Manager™ first in priority, no matter how many times I move it down the priority list. It never saves!

    The only way I can boot from USB is going into the BIOS and clicking the Boot Override option. Photos from my Asus Maximus VIII Hero motherboard:

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    I've tried googling a fix for this, but nothing suggested has worked. It's most commonly "set to Legacy/CSM mode" or whatnot, but the BIOS is already set to that.

    Any idea what I can do? I bought this motherboard years ago, and from day #1 I could boot from USB just by sticking it in and restarting. The USB always took first priority, no matter what. Now, it's always last, and I have to force load it by clicking the Boot Override option. The only times the USB drive boots first is if I take the Windows 10 SSD drive out. it seems there's something, somewhere, that's telling the BIOS "If Windows Boot Manager™ is detected, PUT IT FIRST NO MATTER WHAT."

    Any thoughts?
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  2. Posts : 4,224
    Windows 10
       #2

    This is an ASUS motherboard, right? I'd look round the ASUS forums, especially for your mobo model, and see if anybody else has run into this. As long as you can force your way into BIOS, you can still boot from USB. Might want to see if there's a BIOS upgrade available for your mobo (info online shows a new version 3802 was released on 2018/04/27). I'd suggest updating that to see if it helps. Might just do the trick.
    HTH,
    --Ed--
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  3. Posts : 4,593
    several
       #3

    It's most commonly "set to Legacy/CSM mode" or whatnot, but the BIOS is already set to that.
    Your device control is not set to legacy. It is set to efi and legacy.
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  4. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #4

    SIW2 said:
    Your device control is not set to legacy. It is set to efi and legacy.
    Changing it to Legacy Only results in Windows becoming unbootable.

    Blue screen error: bcd oxc0000098

    Windows Repair & Macrium can't fix. Only setting the BIOS back to UEFI allows the HDD to boot Windows normally.
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  5. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #5

    thottstation said:
    Changing it to Legacy Only results in Windows becoming unbootable.

    Blue screen error: bcd oxc0000098

    Windows Repair & Macrium can't fix. Only setting the BIOS back to UEFI allows the HDD to boot Windows normally.
    Because Windows was installed under UEFI so changing to "Legacy" would net an unbootable drive. Nothing unusual there.
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  6. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    sygnus21 said:
    Because Windows was installed under UEFI so changing to "Legacy" would net an unbootable drive. Nothing unusual there.
    The Windows 10 Installer USB only shows up once in the BIOS Boot priority list, but the Macrium bootable USB drive shows up twice

    Sandisk USB Drive
    UEFI: Sandisk USB Drive

    But despite being UEFI, it still won't boot from BIOS. WIndows Boot manager takes the no.1 spot no matter what.
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  7. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #7

    thottstation said:
    But since this incident, suddenly I can no longer boot from USB drives just by sticking them in and restarting!

    They still work and I can see them when I plug them in. I just can't boot the PC from them. The computer always loads Windows 10 on the SSD drive first!
    I wasn't aware you could just right click a USB device and boot from it.

    Anyway, if you want to boot from the a USB device you need to make sure that device is listed in the BIOS as the first boot device. Going from what you posted, your SSD is the the first boot device so that's what the motherboard is going to use. Again, if you want to boot off a USB device, it needs to be set in the BIOS as the first boot device.

    Hope that helps
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  8. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #8

    thottstation said:
    But despite being UEFI, it still won't boot from BIOS. WIndows Boot manager takes the no.1 spot no matter what.
    See my post above.

    And in this instance, it's not a "UEFI / non-UEFI" issue, it's a matter of boot device priority. Set the device you want to boot from in the BIOS as the first boot device.... and make sure the device is a suitable boot drive (has the appropriate boot files).
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  9. Posts : 4,593
    several
       #9

    WIndows Boot manager takes the no.1 spot no matter what.
    It could be a "feature" of your mobo bios when efi+legacy is set.

    Set the device you want to boot from in the BIOS as the first boot device.... and make sure the device is a suitable boot drive

    How can he do that when it is not attached ? I think the OP wants usb treated as first boot device by default.
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  10. Posts : 6
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    As I stated in my original post:

    No matter how many times I change the Boot Priority to USB first, the BIOS keeps changing it back to Windows Boot Manager: 1st.

    (Don'cha hate it when people just read the thread title and not the post detailing the problem?)
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