Desperately Looking for Mobo LGA 1151 that has at least HDMI 2.0a

I need some major help, guys. I purchased a Pioneer Blu-ray player that requires a motherboard with HDMI 2.0a. I need to know if I should return it soon. I have an i7-8700k so the motherboard has to be LGA 1151 Z390. I followed the advice of some of you guys. I think I looked through a hundreds of models to check to see if they had the HDMI specification that I need. I literally only found a single one.

I could only find a single motherboard that has HDMI 2.0a. (It has to be at least 2.0a not just HDMI 2.0.) Sometimes, spec sheets will just say HDMI 2.0 which can actually mean HDMI 2.0, 2.0a, or 2.0b.

The way to figure the actual HDMI type is to see what other mobo features are listed. If the mobo can output 60 FPS or HDR (high dynamic range)/WCG (wide color gamut), it means it’s at least HDMI 2.0a. Without HDR, it means it’s HDMI 2.0 or lower. If 30 FPS, it’s HDMI 2.0 or lower as well.

The only make/model I could find was the Asus WS Z390 Pro. I can’t believe that there isn’t another LGA 1151 motherboard with at least HDMI 2.0a.

do you have an option to connect to the screen via display port or have avalable diaplay port coinnectors on board/graphic card? because if you do finding a converter to specyfied hdmi format would be simpler than entire motherboard

That's a question that I asked myself many times. I don't know. I do know that it states within the requirements that the motherboard has to fulfill HDMI 2.0a requirements. Also, the HDMI requirements are listed under the integrated graphics GPU section.

I don't know how motherboards work but this is my logical reasoning. Given they state the HDMI specs under the integrated GPU section and if the motherboard could process HDMI 2.0a so that a discrete graphic card could process the HDMI 2.0a, wouldn't they simply create the motherboard so that the integrated GPU could handle HDMI 2.0a in case you don't have an independent graphics card?

So..I think it means that the integrated GPU has to be handle HDMI 2.0a.

bobkn said:

I wonder whether it (BDR-212UBK ?) literally requires a motherboard with HDMI 2.0a for its onboard graphics? That's a seriously narrow requirement. It would make much more sense to allow a discrete graphics card.

I have an LG WH16NS60. It plays UHD BDs. (I reverted to an older firmware that permits ripping UHD disks.) I am able to play through a DisplayPort output of an nVidia RTX 2080 Super graphics card, which supports UHD/HDR.

I don't watch movies on my PC, though. I prefer my 55" LG OLED TV.

first of all are we talking about the same thing?
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...R-212UBK#specs

if yes look at the minimum cpu required, they have no integrated graphics whatsoever, also over 10 years old.
so the player would work on a potato , but for hdr stuff you would require a monitor and graphic card supporting HDCP 2.2 either over hdmi 2.0a or display port. i don't know why they only specs intel 200 and higher chipsets with integrated graphics but probably because they support hardware encryption and no amd part, i would be very angry and ask them directly actually , because those look like verry cketchy specs , for home entertainment centers rather than for having them in gaming rig

Yep, that's it. It's one of 2 Blu-ray players I believe that can play 4k content. LG has one that isn't very good and Pioneer is the only that's viable.

I didn't understand what you mean by "look at the minimum cpu required, they have no integrated graphics whatsoever, also over 10 years old."

If you look at the chart that governs playing Blu-ray discs (not just M-discs), it states that a minimum of Intel integrated 630 is required.

Integrated 630 by definition is HDMI 1.4 so it has to be something higher.

kokodin said:

first of all are we talking about the same thing?
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...R-212UBK#specs

if yes look at the minimum cpu required, they have no integrated graphics whatsoever, also over 10 years old.
so the player would work on a potato , but for hdr stuff you would require a monitor and graphic card supporting HDCP 2.2 either over hdmi 2.0a or display port. i don't know why they only specs intel 200 and higher chipsets with integrated graphics but probably because they support hardware encryption and no amd part, i would be very angry and ask them directly actually , because those look like verry cketchy specs , for home entertainment centers rather than for having them in gaming rig

i was more refering to the fact that it would work over hdmi 1,4 with standard blu ray discs but it would require a gpu on those old cpu's because they were so old, integrated graphics was still in northbridges on the motherboard with those. but not on every board., I mean that still ddr2 era core 2 duo and athlon 64 x2 3800 not to mention t2700 is a laptop cpu so the "minimum requirement" don't even make sense for desktop drive . i am not even sure if those cpu's can handle the bandwidth of uncompressed video, let alone play it without biff gpu .

with graphic cards non integrated old geforce 710 is by hardware equiped with hdmi 2.0 , 1030 has hdmi 2.0b. so i would assume any gf 10 series and above would support 4k hdr video older gpu's could have problems and that would be independent of integrated graphics which in general is disabled while you have a gpu in system. it would be illogical for it to not work , but don't take my word for it. i don't know if you building your own bd player or trying to have that drive in your daily driver pc. anyway hdcp 2.2 is not backward compatybile so your monitor has to support the standard too

wikipedia say dp 1.3 add support for hdcp 2.2

Hi, Bob,

Actually, M-Disc support is what I was referring to when I said it isn't very good. I guess it doesn't mean it's not very good but it's a new player and it should really provide better M-Disc support if it was just released. It should be able to burn Blu-ray M-Discs like the Pioneer. The absolute difference in price is not that large. The LG is $100 and the Pioneer is $150. The LG only provides DVD M-Disc support at only 4.7 gigs while the Pioneer is 100 gigs. I even think 100 gigs is small if you consider that the average user saves Tb's of important stuff these days. Of course, no one knows for sure but there is a strong possibility that regular Blu-ray blanks won't last very long. I remember saving things on CDs 20 years ago and I remember how it wouldn't be able to read the CDs after a year or so. That's scary if it's for long-term storage.

I also think M-Disc support is important because it has been personally and rigorously tested by individuals who describe in detail how they really try to destroy the M-Disc and it still plays afterwards. That seems like pretty good evidence that it will last centuries if stored properly. I read that Facebook themselves bought huge quantities of them to backup their own valuable data in facilities in NY or NJ.

I also think people don't realize how valuable those home family videos really are. I think it'll be crushing to them in 60 years when they or their grandkids can't watch those videos. That's my opinion.

For the Pioneer, DP support is not required. Just HDMI 2.0a.

That any device needs HDCP 2.2 is really messed up. It is blatantly a money grab. HDCP is just a license. Why do you need to buy HDCP 2.2 when you paid for HDCP 2.1? What was the purpose of HDCP 2.1 then? Nothing. Completely nothing. The manufacturers just made obsolete all the devices that are HDCP 2.1. It's like manufacturers said we need to sell more devices and we are going to make HDCP 2.1 pointless so people will have to throw away their 2-year-old hardware and have to buy 2.2.

You can tell I have HDCP 2.1 devices. I have to replace my 2-year-old motherboard, CPU, monitor, graphics card, etc. That's a lot of money. It's so messed up.

bobkn said:

I might be inclined to argue. I have an LG WH16NS60. I don't use it to play UHD disks, but I have tested it. It works fine for that purpose. If you want M Disk support, it may not be the best choice. It only supports DVD M Disks, no BluRay. The drive supports BDXL, though.

If you check my system specs, you'll see that I'm using it on an Intel-free PC. (I'm not anti-Intel, it's just what I have at this time.)

The Pioneer could be superior, if all that it requires is a suitably powerpul CPU and a GPU with an HDMI 2.0a port. (Or DP. Not sure whether 1.2 is adequate, or 1.4 or better is required to support HDCP 2.2.)