ejecting flash drives

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  1. Posts : 56
    Windows 10 Professional
       #1

    ejecting flash drives


    I have been having this issue. I get the issue fixed and it comes back. I do not like to just pull a flash drive out. It will damage them and they cost too much.It seems to be an issue in Windows 10 2004 but IDK for sure. When I right click the icon down by the clock the USB flash drive icon.

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    I right click and select eject usually I get a message same to eject. Nothing shows no message. But if I click the message icon I see a message where it shows safe to eject. It just does not show me without looking.


    Windows 10 Professional (x64) Version 2004 (build 19041.546)Install Language: English (United States)System Locale: English (United States)Installed: 9/1/2020 11:23:55 AM
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  2. Posts : 4,173
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #2

    First, removing the drive without ejecting it will NOT damage the drive. It can, however, damage data only.

    Frankly, I really don't understand where the question is in the remainder of your posting, but I would like to point out that you can set a policy for the disk so that you can completely eliminate the need to eject the disk before before removing it.

    To do so, open Device Manager, locate the drive, right-click, choose Properties. Go to the Policies tab. Select the "Quick removal" option.

    NOTE: Quick removal is the default option in the version of Windows that you are running. As a result, by default, there is no need to eject the drive.

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  3. Posts : 56
    Windows 10 Professional
    Thread Starter
       #3

    [QUOTE=hsehestedt;2041659]First, removing the drive without ejecting it will NOT damage the drive. It can, however, damage data only.



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    I do not know what happened but it seemed to fix itself. I was gonna do a system restore I rebooted to advanced
    menu. Found out system restore was turned off (That's another issue. System restore keeps turning itself off) So I booted back to Windows and now it seems to show notifications. And yes I did reboot before this has happened several times since I updated to 2004.

    @hsehestedt Thanks for the reply anyway. I will keep in mind what you said about ejecting does not damaged the drive.
    Like I said I had one to die like that. But all is good it was a long time ago that happened.




    What I want for it to do is do what it does on default. Tell you it is safe to remove hardware. And I am not trying to argue but I have had flash drives die because someone once yanked it out without ejecting it.

    Question is why did it change? It used to tell me safe to remove hardware and now it don't. I do see it in notifications it will show safe to remove hardware.

    I have not changed anything. Pleas e help me here get it back like it was. Thanks for the reply.
    Last edited by i386; 08 Oct 2020 at 18:28. Reason: Does it matter?
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  4. Posts : 4,173
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #4

    Go to Settings > System > Notifications & actions.

    Make sure that "Get notifications from apps and other senders" is turned on.

    If that is already on, let me know and I'll see if I can find any other causes.
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  5. Posts : 1,218
    W10-Pro 22H2
       #5

    hsehestedt said:
    ... but I would like to point out that you can set a policy for the disk so that you can completely eliminate the need to eject the disk before before removing it.
    That is something I have never understood: sure, one can turn off write-caching, but how does that ensure that, at the moment one pulls the stick out, Windows is not busy writing something to it?
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  6. Posts : 4,173
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #6

    The assumption is that you are not actively copying something to the disk such as with File Explorer. In File Explorer, it would be obvious because you can see the status. If you have some sort of background tasks running that access data on the drive that isn't obvious, then it would be best to perform an eject operation.
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  7. Posts : 1,218
    W10-Pro 22H2
       #7

    hsehestedt said:
    ... it would be best to perform an eject operation.
    That seems sensible, and is what I do.
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  8. Posts : 4,173
    Windows 11 Pro, 22H2
       #8

    Just to get a little bit more technical...

    When you set the policy for Quick removal data is not considered as being committed to the disk by Windows until the physical drive reports that it has been committed. As a result, you avoid corruption of the file system. Now, an application may still want to write more data to the drive, but that is another story.

    On the other hand, when you set the policy Better performance, this enables write caching. In other words, data goes to cache first and Windows considers the data as having been written, although the truth is that this data has not yet been committed to disk. As a result, disconnection at this time can cause corruption.
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  9. Posts : 1,218
    W10-Pro 22H2
       #9

    Does that mean that with 'better perf' set, Windows doesn't know if the data has been written? If so, how does the 'safely eject' process work?
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  10. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #10

    Re write caching, here is something I noticed 3 weeks ago with a USB flash drive:

    I copied 29 gb of data from a spinning hard drive to the USB using drag and drop; that took 3 hours and 28 minutes. It's a slow flash drive.

    The next day, I realized that write caching had been off when I did the copy.

    So, I turned write caching on and re-did the copy operation on the same 29 gb set of files.

    It took 3 hours and 30 minutes; virtually unchanged when compared to write caching off.

    The data is a random bunch of personal data files--about 55,000. Jpegs, Word docs, Excel docs, a few video files, etc.

    Is that expected behavior for a random USB flash drive?
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