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  1.    12 Mar 2016 #21
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    win 10 64 bit

    @flashh4:Solved with a repair install !!?
    can provide details and description how u made it?did u install win 10 64 bit ?
    facing same problem while trying to clean install win 10 64bit on e8500(freeze on win logo itself) but can install win 10 32bit on e8500
    Thank you
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  2.    12 Mar 2016 #22
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    win 10 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by flashh4 View Post
    Solved with a repair install !!

    Thanks
    @flashh4:Solved with a repair install !!?
    can provide details and description how u made it?did u install win 10 64 bit ?
    facing same problem while trying to clean install win 10 64bit on e8500(freeze on win logo itself) but can install win 10 32bit on e8500
    Thank you
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  3.    12 Mar 2016 #23
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 2,308
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    Hello!

    As suggested in my previous post, install Aida64 and see the CPU instructions supported by your CPU. If it doesn't support the specific instructions mentioned by another poster, then don't try in vain. You cannot install the 64-bit version unless you hack the kernel. Hacking the kernel in Windows 8 and 8.1 works without any problem, but in Windows 10 you keep getting an error message that some system file is modified (signature test fails) and asked to troubleshoot. To boot your computer you have to go to the troubleshoot menu and then select the 7 option (disable driver signature) EVERY time. No matter what I did I could not do to automatically and get rid of this requirement. So avoid 64-bit if your CPU doesn't support it. Besides if you have up to 4GB RAM, there is no point installing the 64-bit version. Go for the 32-bit version instead, unless you have more than 4GB RAM (unlikely). I doubt there is any performance difference either, and the compatibility of 32-bit version is far greater for older devices and applications. Another reason to stay clear from 64-bit version if you have an old computer! I speak of experience!
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  4.    12 Mar 2016 #24
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    win 10 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    Hello!

    As suggested in my previous post, install Aida64 and see the CPU instructions supported by your CPU. If it doesn't support the specific instructions mentioned by another poster, then don't try in vain. You cannot install the 64-bit version unless you hack the kernel. Hacking the kernel in Windows 8 and 8.1 works without any problem, but in Windows 10 you keep getting an error message that some system file is modified (signature test fails) and asked to troubleshoot. To boot your computer you have to go to the troubleshoot menu and then select the 7 option (disable driver signature) EVERY time. No matter what I did I could not do to automatically and get rid of this requirement. So avoid 64-bit if your CPU doesn't support it. Besides if you have up to 4GB RAM, there is no point installing the 64-bit version. Go for the 32-bit version instead, unless you have more than 4GB RAM (unlikely). I doubt there is any performance difference either, and the compatibility of 32-bit version is far greater for older devices and applications. Another reason to stay clear from 64-bit version if you have an old computer! I speak of experience!
    Thank you for your reply .but on 32bit i can use only 3.12 out of 4gb ram .so can't play hd videos smoothly.but on 64 bit it is good .thats why trying.with AIDA64 ENGINEER I checked e8500 does not support cmpxchg16b.
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  5.    12 Mar 2016 #25
    Join Date : Mar 2016
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    win 10 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    Hello!

    As suggested in my previous post, install Aida64 and see the CPU instructions supported by your CPU. If it doesn't support the specific instructions mentioned by another poster, then don't try in vain. You cannot install the 64-bit version unless you hack the kernel. Hacking the kernel in Windows 8 and 8.1 works without any problem, but in Windows 10 you keep getting an error message that some system file is modified (signature test fails) and asked to troubleshoot. To boot your computer you have to go to the troubleshoot menu and then select the 7 option (disable driver signature) EVERY time. No matter what I did I could not do to automatically and get rid of this requirement. So avoid 64-bit if your CPU doesn't support it. Besides if you have up to 4GB RAM, there is no point installing the 64-bit version. Go for the 32-bit version instead, unless you have more than 4GB RAM (unlikely). I doubt there is any performance difference either, and the compatibility of 32-bit version is far greater for older devices and applications. Another reason to stay clear from 64-bit version if you have an old computer! I speak of experience!
    Also is there any list of processors that supports win 10 64 bit?
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  6.    12 Mar 2016 #26
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    Any Intel socket 775 CPU greater than the first two families (500 family was first 32-bit s775 series, 600 family was first s755 64-bit series) has a chance of being compatible. To make sure use Aida64 and check if these instructions are supported. If they are, then go for 64-bit. If they aren't go for the 32-bit instead. The less RAM supported should not affect the graphics performance. To get best performance make sure you have Intel graphics drivers installed, not generic Microsoft driver from Windows Update!

    Today I found my old Pinnacle Studio PCTV card and my also old Creative SoundBlaster Live! 1024 card and tried to install these in my test PC that has Windows 10 Pro 64-bit installed. For the SoundBlaster, I tried to install the official Creative Windows XP x64 driver since no newer was available. The first error message was that this driver was unsigned, so I restarted with "disable driver signature" option. I managed to install the driver, supposedly OK but no sound was produced from the speakers! I then tried to install the generic Microsoft Vista & 7 64-bit driver which I had sometime downloaded from Microsoft Update Catalog only to discover it cannot be installed in Windows 10 64-bit (and probably in Windows 8 64-bit as well). There was an error message about some files missing. So tough luck. I then tried to install the Pinnacle TV tuner card with some hard-to-find third-party BT848 drivers I had downloaded in the past for Windows 7 64-bit. The audio device could be installed but the video device could not! VERY annoying!

    So my advice is to stay away from Windows 10 64-bit if you have an old computer with up to 4GB RAM. Even if the CPU supported the 64-bit version and you managed to installed it, you could have issues with your old devices. Why bother? The difference between 3.25GB and 4GB RAM is not too big to worth the trouble. Let alone that there should not be a full 4GB because of the shared amount by the Intel graphics card. So do yourself a favor and forget it. Install 32-bit instead with proper drivers for best performance and - most importantly - best compatibility. I wasn't kidding when I told you I speak of experience. I have lost countless hours to make stuff work in 64-bit only to give up and replace them with newer components that have 64-bit drivers.
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  7.    13 Mar 2016 #27
    Join Date : Mar 2016
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    win 10 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    Any Intel socket 775 CPU greater than the first two families (500 family was first 32-bit s775 series, 600 family was first s755 64-bit series) has a chance of being compatible. To make sure use Aida64 and check if these instructions are supported. If they are, then go for 64-bit. If they aren't go for the 32-bit instead. The less RAM supported should not affect the graphics performance. To get best performance make sure you have Intel graphics drivers installed, not generic Microsoft driver from Windows Update!

    Today I found my old Pinnacle Studio PCTV card and my also old Creative SoundBlaster Live! 1024 card and tried to install these in my test PC that has Windows 10 Pro 64-bit installed. For the SoundBlaster, I tried to install the official Creative Windows XP x64 driver since no newer was available. The first error message was that this driver was unsigned, so I restarted with "disable driver signature" option. I managed to install the driver, supposedly OK but no sound was produced from the speakers! I then tried to install the generic Microsoft Vista & 7 64-bit driver which I had sometime downloaded from Microsoft Update Catalog only to discover it cannot be installed in Windows 10 64-bit (and probably in Windows 8 64-bit as well). There was an error message about some files missing. So tough luck. I then tried to install the Pinnacle TV tuner card with some hard-to-find third-party BT848 drivers I had downloaded in the past for Windows 7 64-bit. The audio device could be installed but the video device could not! VERY annoying!

    So my advice is to stay away from Windows 10 64-bit if you have an old computer with up to 4GB RAM. Even if the CPU supported the 64-bit version and you managed to installed it, you could have issues with your old devices. Why bother? The difference between 3.25GB and 4GB RAM is not too big to worth the trouble. Let alone that there should not be a full 4GB because of the shared amount by the Intel graphics card. So do yourself a favor and forget it. Install 32-bit instead with proper drivers for best performance and - most importantly - best compatibility. I wasn't kidding when I told you I speak of experience. I have lost countless hours to make stuff work in 64-bit only to give up and replace them with newer components that have 64-bit drivers.
    i think e8500 greater than first 2 families right.i have e2180 and e6600 working on win 10 64bit.i heard updating bios may help.is it possible.my motherboard is zebronics nf 7050 and chipset nvidia nforce 610i .i got only .rom file from zebronics website.how to use this file to update bios?
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  8.    13 Mar 2016 #28
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    Look again at the BIOS download site if any utility is mentioned and download it. It could be in the Applications/Utilities section. If you have Award BIOS or Phoenix or AMI there are specific utilities that work in all motherboards, but the safest is to download the utility from the motherboard's own web site. If the utility is DOS based, you need a way to boot into DOS (command prompt) to use it. One way is to use an old Windows 95 or 98 CD-ROM and boot into the command prompt. If you have a floppy disk drive, you should copy the BIOS there, as the DOS cannot normally access an NTFS hard disk to get it from there neither can access your USB Flash drive. It might be able to access your USB Flash drive if you connect it before you switch on your PC and then enable the legacy USB options in BIOS, but this is not always supported. Of course your USB Flash drive should be FAT32 formatted and as small as possible to improve compatibility (drives over 4GB may not be recognized properly). Read the utility instructions of how to use it.
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  9.    13 Mar 2016 #29
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    Just for the record: All my recent attempts to make my Creative SoundBlaster Live! 1024 card work in Windows 10 64-bit failed! The one and only official BETA driver for Windows XP x64 installed "successfully" but no sound came out of my speakers! The third party KX Project software installed "successfully" but could not produce any sound either. At the KX Mixer any attempt to test the speakers gave an error "failed to produce sound". At Windows Playback Devices I could only hear the test sound in the Advanced tab with several seconds delay and could not produce any sound form anywhere else, including during configuring the output. I finally tried the modified drivers Creative Soundblaster Live Support Pack 2.5 by Daniel_k. This once again installed "successfully" bun no audio device was installed. Trying to manually install it from Device Manager by browsing into the folder resulted in a BSOD. I then booted in Safe Mode and manually installed the driver from Device Manager and restarted in normal mode. Never was able to produce any sound from the speakers, same as the official Creative driver for Windows XP x64. Before telling the card is faulty, no it isn't! It works perfectly well in Windows XP, Vista and 7 32-bit using the official Windows XP driver (haven't tested in Windows 8 or 10 32-bit).

    So my advice to all you with similarly old hardware, don't waste your time with Windows 10 64-bit. Even if it does install chances are some of your old hardware will have no drivers or not work properly. Stick with Windows 10 32-bit to maximize compatibility (even XP drivers work in most cases) ! As already said there is very little benefit to install 64-bit with only 4GB RAM. If you have less RAM there is no benefit at all! Stick with 32-bit!

    However, if you insist on trying 64-bit (at your own risk), at least use Aida64 and gather any drivers beforehand. If you cannot find a driver for a device, don't make the common mistake of thinking there will be a workaround. There isn't, apart from rare exceptions! Go for 32-bit instead.
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  10.    13 Mar 2016 #30
    Join Date : Mar 2016
    Posts : 11
    win 10 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    Just for the record: All my recent attempts to make my Creative SoundBlaster Live! 1024 card work in Windows 10 64-bit failed! The one and only official BETA driver for Windows XP x64 installed "successfully" but no sound came out of my speakers! The third party KX Project software installed "successfully" but could not produce any sound either. At the KX Mixer any attempt to test the speakers gave an error "failed to produce sound". At Windows Playback Devices I could only hear the test sound in the Advanced tab with several seconds delay and could not produce any sound form anywhere else, including during configuring the output. I finally tried the modified drivers Creative Soundblaster Live Support Pack 2.5 by Daniel_k. This once again installed "successfully" bun no audio device was installed. Trying to manually install it from Device Manager by browsing into the folder resulted in a BSOD. I then booted in Safe Mode and manually installed the driver from Device Manager and restarted in normal mode. Never was able to produce any sound from the speakers, same as the official Creative driver for Windows XP x64. Before telling the card is faulty, no it isn't! It works perfectly well in Windows XP, Vista and 7 32-bit using the official Windows XP driver (haven't tested in Windows 8 or 10 32-bit).

    So my advice to all you with similarly old hardware, don't waste your time with Windows 10 64-bit. Even if it does install chances are some of your old hardware will have no drivers or not work properly. Stick with Windows 10 32-bit to maximize compatibility (even XP drivers work in most cases) ! As already said there is very little benefit to install 64-bit with only 4GB RAM. If you have less RAM there is no benefit at all! Stick with 32-bit!

    However, if you insist on trying 64-bit (at your own risk), at least use Aida64 and gather any drivers beforehand. If you cannot find a driver for a device, don't make the common mistake of thinking there will be a workaround. There isn't, apart from rare exceptions! Go for 32-bit instead.
    you may try installing Daniel_k driver in disable driver enforcement mode .for me soundblaster audigy value working good on win 10 64 bit by using this method.
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