ASUS motherboard RAM timings problem

Ok, just updated the BIOS on my ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE motherboard, from 1302 to 2301.
Obviously, the computer is working, but I had previously set the RAM timings to manufacturer's specs, but can't seem to do that... this time.

Motherboard support page: Pro WS X570-ACE FAQ | Motherboards | ASUS Global

My RAM: F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

Here's the current status... the problem ofc is translating the XMP naming scheme to the BIOS nbaming scheme... for the DRAM timings.









The problem is, that w/e I try to manually set my RAM timings, like before the BIOS update, everything craps out. No display, can't get in the BIOS. Have to pull the CMOS battery to reset... and to do that I have to pull the vid card.

Here's how I had the timings set before the BIOS Update...

NavyLCDR said:

Did you also increase the voltage from 1.2 to 1.35?

Yeah. I've done this before on the older 1302 BIOS... no problems. The bottom pic above is CPU-Z showing that I did it before.
I'm not even trying to over clock anything.

Just trying to set the timings at 14-14-14-34-48 / 1.35v / 1T command rate.

I mean I've overclocked in the past, numerable times... I know my way around the BIOS (all AMD on ASUS mobos too).

The real aggravating thing, is if it doesn't work, I gotta pull the vid card, to get at the stupid CMOS battery.




/edit On top of that, I have no other comp, and no smart phone. So I have no internet access unless this computer boots.


I even have a saved BIOS profile with the RAM timings successfully set on the older 1302 BIOS. I tried loading that after the upgrade to the 2103 BIOS... didn't work. LOL




/edit 2 I saved, to a new BIOS profile, all the other BIOS settings, so when I decide to go back in and try again... I won't have to re-set all the BIOS setting besides, the RAM timings.
I'm probably just tired or something.


Mainly what I'm looking for is a translation from the NAMES of the timings in my BIOS manual... up above, and the NAMES of the BIOS timings in CPU-Z or from the RAM manufacturer. Every new motherboard, some BIOS engineer decides to rename the timings in the BIOS. :/





Don't anyone fry your brains on this. I'm really in no hurry, and I'm sure I'll figure it out sooner or later. But if anyone is bored.... etc. Right now, I got stuff to do for a couple hours. I'll be back!

NavyLCDR said:

What about going back to the previous BIOS? What prompted you to upgrade?

Also instead of pulling the CMOS battery, would it be easier to short the CLRTC pins?

Yeah, I've been contemplating going back to the 1302 BIOS.

The reason I decided to upgrade to the latest BIOS was because I was reading about the AMD 3000 series temps, and thought..., I wonder if they adjusted or fixed that with the latest BIOS. Derp. LOL





UPDATE:

Well I tried to go back to the 1302 BIOS, but it said it wasn't a valid BIOS file, but it was... unless sitting on my F: drive fro a while made it not valid.

Anyway, it's a moot point... I got the RAM timings set and working.







/e The only thing I did differently this time was instead of leaving the "Bank Cycle Time" on Auto... I set it to 48, like I had it on the previous BIOS. On Auto the Bank Cycle Time was 51, which is a looser timing and should've worked.

Who knows.

Helmut said:

That is overclocking, upping the voltage to 1.35v and those timings and a 50% increase in frequency.

Set to auto, job done.

"Rated XMP frequency & stability depends on MB & CPU capability" Somewhat of a hint that those are overclocked modules.
Whilst a BIOS/UEFI update may increase compatibility with other memory modules it may decrease it with your particular ones.

Well, it's more like a 33% increase in frequency. Also, I don't consider setting the RAM at manufacturer's defaults... overclocking.


Anyway, we can mark this resolved. I'm still on the latest BIOS and managed to get the RAM timings set, while keeping the computer working.