Like to install small SSD alongside large SATA 3.5" Hard Disk


  1. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Pro (x64) 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1165)
       #1

    Like to install small SSD alongside large SATA 3.5" Hard Disk


    Okay - bit of a 'noob' question here, hope folks can help.

    My desktop machine (5 y.o.) is getting an upgrade.

    I would like to follow the suggestions that have been made of fitting a SSD for boot, Win 10 and program installation and using my large 5TB 3.5-inch hard disk (Toshiba X300) for data storage.

    The 3.5-inch hard disk has two plugs that fit - a 15-pin Serial ATA (SATA) Power connector and the 7-pin SATA Data cable (SATA 'L').

    Does a 2.25-inch SATA laptop hard drive (or laptop SSD) have the same connectors?

    Also, I'd like to dual-boot the Win 10 installation with Linux Mint. The recommendation is to install Win 10 then partition the drive as part of the Mint installation.

    Can I do this with a SSD?

    Does anyone have experience of doing this and if so, do I seem to have understood things correctly?

    Thanks in advance,

    Art
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  2. Posts : 17,367
    Windows 11 Pro
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    [QUOTE=ArthurDent;1941851]The 3.5-inch hard disk has two plugs that fit - a 15-pin Serial ATA (SATA) Power connector and the 7-pin SATA Data cable (SATA 'L').

    Does a 2.25-inch SATA laptop hard drive (or laptop SSD) have the same connectors?[/IMG]

    Yes, it has the same connections. You will probably need to purchase a SATA Data cable to connect the SSD to a SATA port on your motherboard:
    Like to install small SSD alongside large SATA 3.5" Hard Disk-capture.jpg

    The power cable will come from your power supply, likely in a daisy-chain type cable with multiple SATA power connectors on it.

    ArthurDent said:
    Also, I'd like to dual-boot the Win 10 installation with Linux Mint. The recommendation is to install Win 10 then partition the drive as part of the Mint installation.

    Can I do this with a SSD?

    Does anyone have experience of doing this and if so, do I seem to have understood things correctly?

    Thanks in advance,

    Art
    Yes you can do that with an SSD and I would also suggest loading Windows 10 first. Most modern Linux installers will set up dual booting with Windows. Windows setup, however, is not so friendly with setting up dual booting with a previously installed Linux.
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  3. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
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    No over-riding reason to use a laptop SSD in a desktop. I'd get a standard 2.5 inch desktop SSD.

    Your motherboard MAY have (depending on age) M2 ports that would allow you to use an M2 SSD drive instead, without cables.

    You can dual boot on a single SSD. Most people would tell you that dual booting is less complicated if you can put each OS on a different drive entirely, but it's doable on a single.

    SSDs and standard hard drives differ mechanically, but are largely the same in what you can and cannot put on them.
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  4. Posts : 17,367
    Windows 11 Pro
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    No over-riding reason to use a laptop SSD in a desktop. I'd get a standard 2.5 inch desktop SSD..
    Ummm.... "desktop" drives are normally 3.5 inch and "laptop" drives are normally 2.5 inch. Since SATA SSDs (excluding M.2, of course) only come in the 2.5 inch form factor, they are commonly referred to as "laptop" drives.

    @ArthurDent,
    Some desktop computer cases have 2.5 inch drive bays included in them, in which case the SSD would just go directly in there. If your desktop case only has the standard 3.5" drive bays, then if you want to securely mount the SSD with 4 screws, you will need an adapter such as:
    Like to install small SSD alongside large SATA 3.5" Hard Disk-capture.jpg

    Velcro works too, though.
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  5. Posts : 2,487
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
       #5

    Aye aye, commander.

    I saw that the OP said "Does a 2.25-inch SATA laptop hard drive (or laptop SSD) have the same connectors?".

    I've never owned a laptop and assumed there was some sort of a 2.25 inch SSD intended for laptops. I have no idea if that is so.
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  6. Posts : 17,367
    Windows 11 Pro
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    ignatzatsonic said:
    Aye aye, commander.

    I saw that the OP said "Does a 2.25-inch SATA laptop hard drive (or laptop SSD) have the same connectors?".

    I've never owned a laptop and assumed there was some sort of a 2.25 inch SSD intended for laptops. I have no idea if that is so.
    Ahhh, I missed the typo in the OP! That would be confusing then. There are no 2.25 inch SSDs
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  7. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Pro (x64) 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1165)
    Thread Starter
       #7

    NavyLCDR said:
    Ahhh, I missed the typo in the OP! That would be confusing then. There are no 2.25 inch SSDs
    Yes, sorry chaps, dunno why I wrote 2.25-inch laptop hard disk. I did, of course, mean a 2.5-inch

    @ignatzatsonic - as far as I know, the mobo (Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2-DVI) doesn't have a M2 socket. Just checking the spec sheet now.

    UPDATE: No, it doesn't (as I thought)

    @NavyLCDR - yes, I'll need an adapter as all of the bays in the desktop are 3.5-inch.

    Art
    Last edited by ArthurDent; 18 Jun 2020 at 11:10.
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  8. Posts : 13,957
    Windows 10 Pro X64 21H1 19043.1503
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    ... or as NavyLCDR said, Velcro does the trick very well too. That's what I'm using for the 1TB Samsung SSD in my Lenovo Desktop.
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  9. Posts : 301
    Windows 10 Pro (x64) 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1165)
    Thread Starter
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    Ztruker said:
    ... or as NavyLCDR said, Velcro does the trick very well too. That's what I'm using for the 1TB Samsung SSD in my Lenovo Desktop.
    Agreed.

    Velcro is in use sticking a 1TB portable USB hard drive to the rear on my SONY TV to use for recording purposes!

    However, I bought this bracket to fit the SSD to the desktop pc (both of which arrived this morning only 12 hrs after I ordered)

    Black 2.5 to 3.5-inch Tray Adaptor for 2.5-inch SSDs & HDDs from AKASA AK-HDA-03 LN42314 | SCAN UK

    Art

    - - - Updated - - -

    Well, the installation of Win 10 Pro went without a hitch - the smoothest installation of a Microsoft OS I've ever had (WIndows 3.11, Windws NT 3.51, Windows 95, Windows 98SE, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Windows Me, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 HP).

    I now have Windows 10 Pro Version 2004 Build 19041 installed on the SSD together with Office 2016 and all four printers (3 WiFi and one wired).

    Everything running smoothly.

    Now to boot the pc with Linux Mint from a USB and partition the SSD.

    Hope this doesn't go South!

    Art
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  10. Posts : 73
    Win 10 pro
       #10

    my old Lian Li cases have 3.5 cages at the bottom with slots at the top of the cage. I've been hanging SSDs vertically in them using 2 screws. I figure given no spinners there isn't any need for a more secure mounting. And I'd guess a little better than velcro
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