How to tell how W10 will run on the 6570B
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How to tell how W10 will run on the 6570B
Hello
I'm thinking of buying a refurbished HP Probook 6570B (Core i5-3210M). The store says they've put Windows 10 Home on it. Is there any way I can get some kind of indication of how capable this laptop is of running Windows 10? The laptop currently has only 4 GB of RAM on it (but I suppose I can splurge on an 8 GB stick to bump it up to 10, if necessary). Does anyone know where I can get this type of information?
(I'm also wondering whether this machine will do an SSD justice, but... that is not a "Windows 10" question.)
Thanks
Samuel
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HP seems to have tested the Probook 6570B only up to the 1511 version of Win10
they did not test it with v1607 & higher but that does not mean the Probook 6570B can't run the newer Win10 versions
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We've got an older Gateway Laptop over here with a Core i5-450M, 8GB RAM, and a 5400RPM spinning hard disk. It has Windows 10 v1909 Home on it.
This laptop takes seemingly forever to start up and load Windows completely. I haven't timed it recently, but it's in the 3 minute range. It's the type of thing where you know to start it then go make a coffee and go to the bathroom - it will be done when you get back!
Once Windows has loaded and you are on the desktop everything runs fine - as you would expect. Office programs, email, web browsing are all snappy and with no problems. No Windows problems or problems with updates.
It's just old tech running modern software and everything is as you would expect in that respect. I would expect the Core i5-3210M would perform somewhat faster.
Last edited by TV2; 05 Mar 2020 at 14:15.
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a 500RPM spinning hard disk.
This laptop takes seemingly forever to start up and load Windows completely. I haven't timed it recently, but it's in the 3 minute range. It's the type of thing where you know to start it then go make a coffee and go to the bathroom - it will be done when you get back!
I mean, thats why.....a 5400RPM disk is painfully slow. Throw an ssd in there and you will have a whole new machine.
I'm thinking of buying a refurbished HP Probook 6570B (Core i5-3210M).
That machine will run 10 fine. Unless you run a lot of applications at once, 4GB ram should be plenty. I would suggest putting a cheap 256GB ssd in there though instead of the stock drive. (If it does not already have an ssd) Most of these older computers that people sell second hand all they do is throw in an ssd and upgrade it to 10. Because its a cheap way to sell an older computer that is also super fast and responsive.
A general rule of thumb is if the machine can run windows 7 well, it should be able to run 10 just fine. Even if specific drivers for 10 don't exist for that machine, the vendors should have one available, or the windows default drivers should allow it to run fine enough for the basics.
An example of a cheap ssd:
Sandisk ssd
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I'm thinking of buying a refurbished HP Probook 6570B (Core i5-3210M). The store says they've put Windows 10 Home on it. Is there any way I can get some kind of indication of how capable this laptop is of running Windows 10? The laptop currently has only 4 GB of RAM on it (but I suppose I can splurge on an 8 GB stick to bump it up to 10, if necessary). Does anyone know where I can get this type of information?
In my experience, the CPU performance is more of a limiting factor than the amount of RAM. W10 thrives on multiple cores/logical threads, the more the better.
My System One in the specs below has a 2 core Pentium B950 with a passmark or 1711 and 4GB RAM. It's quite sufficient for general browsing and MS Office, but a bit slow on CPU-intensive tasks like video editing/processing. Another of my laptops has an i7-4600U, 2 cores/4 logical threads, passmark of 4106 and 8GB RAM. That is more than up to any task, especially after I upgraded its HDD to an SSD.
Your i5-3210M has 2 cores with 2 logical threads per core and a passmark of 3831. That would seem to be more than enough to run W10 well. More RAM would help, as would an SSD, but as it stands it would seem to be sufficient for most purposes.
Intel Pentium B950 @ 2.10GHz vs Intel Core i7-4600U @ 2.10GHz vs Intel Core i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software
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I mean, thats why.....a 5400RPM disk is painfully slow. Throw an ssd in there and you will have a whole new machine.
True dat!
But no money goes into old hardware. We run it until it gets ridiculous and then it goes on eBay.
Right now it is a good for those few times we need an extra machine running and it works great for that.
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Thanks for the first link, and it was also interesting to see what the Windows Experience Score for my current desktop computer was.
HP seems to have tested the Probook 6570B only up to the 1511 version of Win10.
Thanks, your reply opened my eyes to the specific versions of Windows 10 out there.
We've got an older Gateway Laptop over here ... This laptop takes seemingly forever to start up and load Windows completely. ... Once Windows has loaded and you are on the desktop everything runs fine - as you would expect. Office programs, email, web browsing are all snappy and with no problems.
Well, that's good to know, thanks. I don't really care about fast vs. slow start-up, unless it's more than 5 minutes and as long as its only the start-up that is slow (not the rest of the session). I suspect slow start-up is more of a problem for people who have gotten into the habit of making their coffee *before* turning on the computer.
By the way, I was looking for a cheap machine that I can use during holidays (the kind where you to to a far-off place but only do holiday things every second or third day) or while on a long train journey, and not something to replace my desktop computer.
A 5400RPM disk is painfully slow. Throw an SSD in there and you will have a whole new machine.
My [somewhat limited] personal experience is that when you switch from a 7200 RPM drive to a 5400 RPM drive, you'll notice that it's slower, but when you switch from a 5400 RPM drive to a 7200 RPM drive, you won't really notice that it's faster. (-: (-: My [even more limited] personal experience is that whether an SSD is faster depends on what motherboard you're plugging it into.
That said, I do not consider what hard drive is in the machine to be a factor that influences purchasing decision by much, because buying a new hard drive for a very old computer is something that I'm far more willing to do than e.g. buying new RAM for a very old computer: you can still use the old hard drive, and you can use the new hard drive in the future as well.
A general rule of thumb is if the machine can run Windows 7 well, it should be able to run 10 just fine.
My [again, limited] experience is that some machines that were sold with Windows 7 could barely run Windows 7 anyway, if they were meant for the "home" market, especially if they were sold in the days when web browsers used to be less resource hungry.
In my experience, the CPU performance is more of a limiting factor than the amount of RAM. W10 thrives on multiple cores/logical threads, the more the better.
That has been my experience, too. 4 GB of RAM just seemed a tad on the low side. Still, I already suspected that my question's answers would be more about the CPU and motherboard than about RAM or the drive.
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hi ugcheleuce.
I had a similar situation with my dad's Toshiba Satellite C55Dt-A late 2013 laptop PC (PSCFWU) which came pre-installed with Win8.1 and was eligible for a Win10 upgrade but Toshiba only tested it with the v1507 & v1511 versions and put a disclaimer that they could not guarantee that this model would be supported on future Win10 upgrades [product model is either PSCFU or PSCFW]; however my dad's Toshiba laptop seems to handle the newer Win10 versions just fine (I put v1607 on there first, then upgraded to v1809 last year and then to v1909 near the end of Jan. 2020)
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