DVD burn speed.

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  1. Posts : 545
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    DVD burn speed.


    I bought an ASUS 16x 3.0 external Blu Ray player/burner. The issue I am having is that Windows 10 built in burner does not indicate the speed that the burner is running at. I also tried Nero, but that also does not indicate speed. Does anyone know of an app that does show speed?

    Gort
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  2. Posts : 381
    Windows 10
       #2

    I don't know of any software that specifically gives burn speed, other than CDBurnerXP. However, Windows usually tells me if it is burning at max speed, at least as far as I have noticed.

    One thing: Burn speed is subjective and you really are at the mercy of your media here. You may have a 16x burner, but it may only ever burn at 8x with your particular media. It's sort of a crap shoot. I have high speed media that some of the disks only burn at half speed, while others from the same package burn at full speed. It's up to your burner and computer to auto negotiate burn speed, and when you throw the DVD media into the mix, anything can happen.
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  3. Posts : 4,793
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 22H2
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    In Nero, when you start it, it starts with a Wizard, asking what type of disc you want to burn. in the Left Panel. on the top choose CD,DVD, Blu-Ray. Under that, choose Data, Audio etc. On the tabs to the top right choose Burn. Here you can choose the Write speed. CD's can burn at a maximum of 52X with the slowest being 16X. Blu-Ray burn at max 16X Always slow the speed down to the slowest it will go, dependent on your media. for Blu-Ray that may be 4X or 2X again, dependent on the media. Burning at top speed will increase the chance of skips and errors. If you want a high quality burn, burn at the slowest speed.
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  4. Posts : 545
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Spunk. I have 25 gb Blu Ray DVD BD-r that burn well, I was not sure if my Blu Ray could use dvd-rw, dvd+rw so I bought one single dvd-r 4x. It works but 4x is to slow to burn, and slow to boot Linux iso. The Blu Ray discs are for windows 10 iso because they are bigger than 4.7 gb

    Since dvd-rw works do you think dvd+rw will also work? Also 8x would probably work best I think, do not need 16x or higher. But seeing the actual speed is what I need to see. When using Nero with Blu Ray discs it does not indicate speed

    Gort
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  5. Posts : 434
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #5

    Hi Hewjr100
    U can check writing speeds in Aida64.

    DVD burn speed.-dvd.png
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  6. Posts : 4,793
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 22H2
       #6

    Burners are very finicky when it comes to type and brand name of disc Stick with Brand Name media. Once you find a good brand, stick with it. -R, -RW and +R +RW are also issues, some brand of burners burn burn both easily, but usually it is either - or + not both. I have found the -R discs work best for DVD. Sony works best for me. .
    You should not burn a Windows install ISO to a Blu-Ray disc. Because it can only be used on a Blu-Ray player. If a computer doesn't have one, you can't use it. The 4X burn speed does not affect the load speed of the disc once it is burned, if you are booting Linux it won't be slow because you burned the disc at 4X. 4X is the best speed to burn a DVD, if you can burn it at 2X that is even better, it will take longer but it will not loose any data or skip any files, which can happen if it burns faster.
    Windows 10 ISO will burn to a 4.7 GB DVD unless you have enhanced it.
    We suggest burning install media like Linux and Windows to USB Flash drives, they have a larger capacity and can easily be rewritten over on the same media when there is a newer version without wasting discs. They don't scratch and can be rewritten if they become corrupted.
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  7. Posts : 545
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Spunk, I have flash drives but they will boot with most versions of linux, the exception of Ultimate Edition. This is why I bought the Blu Ray burner.

    GromOx, gonna check out Aida64 in a few minutes, will post back.

    Gort

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    Spunk and GromOX, I thought cdburnerXP was discontinued, but it's still active and shows write speed and also alows me to set the speed manually. Thanks for all your input.

    Gort
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  8. Posts : 2,734
    Windows 10
       #8

    A Windows 10 ISO can be burned to a DVD+RW, I have 0.4 GB empty.
    The ATIP disc info contains the nominal disc burn speeds.
    My normal DVD+RW discs are rated for 2.4 - 4x

    However drives use Zoned-CLV which on my drive if 4x is selected it actually burns at 2.4x at the start and 4x towards the end. Two zones at least for the size of the Windows 10 ISO.

    The Read speed of the burned DVD disc is a lot faster than that, on mine towards the end about 9x.

    The burn speed is not actually of any use, merely educational.
    You usually cannot buy discs for the max speed capability of the drive anyway.

    I use Nero CD-DVD speed for this test, gives a graph of burn speed. You can select 2x as well if required. In which case it burns at 2.4x for the whole disc. No doubt determined by the ATIP disc info of speeds and burn strategy factors.
    It is an old version running in Win 7 compatibility mode in Windows 10.

    I can also use Windows 10 to burn an ISO, or CDBurnerXP. I always verify discs after a burn as well.

    Whilst I have a Bluray burner in the Desktop, not in the Laptop which is CD/DVD. So that is why I use DVD for compatibility. Also the active layer is better protected being halfway from both disc surfaces.

    I also have the Windows 10 install media on USB flash drive, so well covered.
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  9. Posts : 545
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Helmut, Among other reasons I bought the external because my laptop does not have any dvd cd player period. Seems nobody is making laptops with them.

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    At least not cheaply.
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  10. Posts : 4,453
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #10

    Hewjr100 said:
    Helmut, Among other reasons I bought the external because my laptop does not have any dvd cd player period. Seems nobody is making laptops with them.

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    At least not cheaply.
    How cheap is cheap?

    I have a Lenovo laptop with a DVD burner. I don't recall its price, but I'm pretty sure that it was less than $300US. A quick check at Newegg finds many laptops with DVD drives, starting at around $250.

    I believe that the advice to use the slowest burn speeds is too conservative. I've burned lots of disks at max speed using Nero. If I do a data verification run, they have always passed. Maybe I'm just lucky, but...
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