Install Windows 10 on ms-7032

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  1. Posts : 22
    Windows 10
       #1

    Install Windows 10 on ms-7032


    I have an older computer, it's specifications tested with CPU-z are:

    MS-7032 or a similar version, but that is how it looks
    MSI K8T Neo-V - motherboard - ATX - Socket 754 - K8T800 Series Specs - CNET

    Sempron 2600+
    Radeon HD 3450
    1GB RAM

    I tried to install Windows 10 on it, but after the bios or motherboard logo or something similar, there is only a black screen and the computer continues to run. The HDD was PATA with a 32-bit version of Windows 10. I tried using another SATA HDD which had a 64-bit version installed, but the result was the same. The PATA HDD runs good when it has Windows 7 on it, although the computer is a little slower but Aero can be disabled. The compatibility wizard or some version of it tested a few months ago, said that 10 can be installed on it.
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  2. Posts : 27,646
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H1
       #2

    Hi Pusik

    Where did you get your media to boot from?

    Are you booting from CD/DVD?


    You have enough storage to meet minimum reqs?


    Ken
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  3. Posts : 22
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    I tried from USB and then DVD. Installed Windows 10 directly from the HDD, it was on another drive there, but it got stuck after restarting, after finishing the installation, it got a black screen after the motherboard logo. Also, there is another Windows 10 64-bit on a SATA HDD, they both work on another computer. The PATA HDD works with Windows 7 on the computer that I'm trying to get Windows 10 on, but with 10 it doesn't. The SATA also doesn't, so the problem isn't with the cables or the HDDs. The OS can be installed on another computer and then the HDD swapped. PATA is 80 GB, SATA is 640.

    In this post, it says that the socket 754 can't run Windows 10 64-bit, maybe it also can't run 32-bit:

    "CPU isn't supported"
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  4. Posts : 27,646
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H1
       #4

    I would try with a single disk, the boot disk, installed in the machine.

    I would clean it with diskpart on one of your other systems and I would make sure it is set up as MBR, not GPT. Cleaning in diskpart will wipe everything. Ensure there is nothing you want on disk you are cleaning.

    Then boot from DVD and try install again.

    Yes use 32 bit. Some cpu's are missing certain instruction sets that can't run Win 10 64bit. Anyway you are below the minimum memory spec for 64bit, you said 1GB ram.

    to use diskpart you do have to be careful. Command prompt (admin) or Powershell (Admin). Commands

    Diskpart
    List Disk
    Select disk x (where x is the drive number you are cleaning) (must be right disk, diskpart is unforgiving)
    Clean
    Convert MBR
    Exit
    Exit

    Do you know what version (1803, 1809, 1903) you are trying to install? Might use an older version if available.

    I've swapped drives and had it work too but not to such old gear. You are moving to unsupported Video, not sure if Windows is set to AHCI, booting legacy or UEFI. I would just install clean.
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  5. Posts : 4,457
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
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    Win10 X64 has additional requirements over X86 (32 bit). Some of the older 64 bit AMD CPUs don't meet them. I'm not clear on whether the Sempron 2600+ supports those additional instructions. At a guess, no.

    32 bit may be OK.

    1GB of RAM is the minimum required amount for Win10 x86. For X64, it's 2GB. (Your motherboard supports DIMMs up to 2GB each, for 4GB total.

    I see that the newest BIOS for the K8T Neo-V is from 2005. This may be the oldest system I've seen for which a Win10 upgrade was tried.
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  6. Posts : 22
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Maybe I tried it with 1709 or 1809. The installation from 7 to 10 32-bit was done on another computer for the PATA HDD, the SATA has the 1903 64-bit. It couldn't be upgraded, so it was clean installed from drive D to C, the content on D remained, C was formated. They both work on another computer, but when they are swapped they don't and were tested one by one.
    There are videos with Sempron 2600+ running Windows 10, and here it seems to work with Radeon HD 3450:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-ebd792c95b68

    Maybe the problem is with the motherboard or the RAM, it's DDR 1. There are two slots, I think that the maximum DDR1 card officially produced is 1GB. The SATA is MBR, probably the PATA is too.
    Last edited by Pusik; 26 Sep 2019 at 17:40.
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  7. Posts : 4,457
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #7

    Pusik said:
    Maybe I tried it with 1709 or 1809. The installation from 7 to 10 32-bit was done on another computer for the PATA HDD, the SATA has the 1903 64-bit. It couldn't be upgraded, so it was clean installed from drive D to C, the content on D remained, C was formated. They both work on another computer, but when they are swapped they don't and were tested one by one.
    There are videos with Sempron 2600+ running Windows 10, and here it seems to work with Radeon HD 3450:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-ebd792c95b68

    Maybe the problem is with the motherboard or the RAM, it's DDR 1. There are two slots, I think that the maximum DDR1 card officially produced is 1GB. The SATA is MBR, probably the PATA is too.
    My mistake. I though that the board supported 2GB DIMMs, but the max is 1GB, for 2GB total system memory. You're probably right that the largest DDR modules are 1GB, anyway.

    As regards the link, the suggested driver was a Windows 8 driver, possibly installed in compatibility mode. It should work, but the poster didn't respond that it did. AMD offers no official work-around for the 3450. The Microsoft Basic drivers will get it up and running, but the performance would probably be probably poor.

    I'm confused as to whether you tried to install Win10 directly, by clean install, on this system. That would be the ultimate test as to whether it's possible to do it at all.
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  8. Posts : 22
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    I tried to install it on the system from a DVD with Windows 10 32 and 64-bit on it, but after the message about pressing any key, there is a black screen and the computer keeps running. I have an SSD, tried using it in the system and installing it from a DVD too, but it's the same. The SSD works fine with Windows XP for now. I used the Media Creation Tool to make a 32-bit USB. After setting it to boot in the bios, the motherboard logo appears, a black screen for a few seconds and then it restarts. After that, it repeats this in a loop.
    Last edited by Pusik; 27 Sep 2019 at 01:08.
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  9. Posts : 27,646
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H1
       #9

    Your firsts sentence, and I could be reading it wrong, you tried to separate DVD's, one with 32 bit and one with 64 bit?

    I have some older devices and they won't boot from USB's with large Thumbdrives. I had success with DVD's.
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  10. Posts : 22
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    No, the DVD has both 32-bit and 64-bit. Yes, it seems that booting from USB can be a problem here. I have a DVD with Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit , it didn't want to boot too. After the message about pressing a key, if I press a key, it restarts. It booted on another system.
    Last edited by Pusik; 27 Sep 2019 at 16:12.
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