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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
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    When available please post updates to each step in post #9.
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  2. Posts : 74
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       #12

    Megahertz said:
    Downloaded HP drivers files are executable files. Once you run them they are extracted to a folder. Drivers files are *.ini, *.cat and *.sys types.
    Normally you install win 7 or win 10, open Device Manager, look for missing drivers and then, one by one, do a "Update Driver" pointing to the folder that has the extracted driver files (*.ini, *.cat and *.sys). Once it finds the correct driver it loads it to the system.

    You can modify sources\install.wim on the installation disk and add (slipstream) the drivers to one or all images on sources\install.wim using Dism.
    As every 6 months you have a new Win 10 version, I don't think it worth the effort.
    OK, thanks for your info. I'm slowly learning more and more of Windows operations. Now, in C:/Windows/System32 folder, I find two sub folders named "drivers" and "drivers store". Opening up the "drivers" folder I see a long list of drivers. Bear with me, I'm a novice! Could this folder of drivers be copy/pasted to the "sources" folder in the ISO folder and be loaded automatically when I ran the ISO Setup?
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  3. Posts : 4,091
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #13

    If you have Windows set and working with all drivers, extract a copy of them using DISM (Navy post #7)
    Driver location & Installation

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  4. Posts : 74
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       #14

    OK, think I'm making progress here. I used the DISM tool from command prompt and made a backup folder of all my system drivers. Now according to Navy LCDR, I can put that folder into my Win 10 ISO folder. Should I put that folder in the "sources" folder in the ISO folder? If this is the correct location for the drivers folder, when I execute the Setup Icon, will all the drivers be loaded on the clean install? Do I need to use Rufus to make the ISO bootable or is it good to go as is?

    Thanks
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    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #15

    "...all the drivers be loaded on the clean install?
    As I wrote before, after the installation you will have to manually install the drivers that are not on the Win 10 installation disk unless you slipstream them into the the install.wim. So, it doesn't matter where you store the drivers folder.
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    Windows 11 Pro
       #16

    miata54 said:
    OK, think I'm making progress here. I used the DISM tool from command prompt and made a backup folder of all my system drivers. Now according to Navy LCDR, I can put that folder into my Win 10 ISO folder. Should I put that folder in the "sources" folder in the ISO folder?
    You can put it in the sources folder if you want, but I would suggest keeping the exported drivers separately. I have mine in a folder with a descriptive name for the computer such as John-Desktop-Drivers.
    miata54 said:
    If this is the correct location for the drivers folder, when I execute the Setup Icon, will all the drivers be loaded on the clean install?
    There is no "correct" folder for the exported drivers and they will not automatically be loaded during a clean install. To have them load automatically during install, you would need to extract the Windows image from the install.wim file, use DISM to add each individual driver to the extracted image, then recapture that image back into the install.wim file.

    miata54 said:
    Do I need to use Rufus to make the ISO bootable or is it good to go as is?
    What do you mean by make the ISO bootable? It takes a special boot file on a hard drive or USB flash drive to actually boot an ISO file. You typically do not boot an ISO file. You create a bootable USB flash drive by extracting (mounting) the files contained within the ISO file to the properly formatted USB flash drive. The format suggested for the USB flash drive is MBR partition type with a FAT32 partition marked as active. The usb flash drive should contain numerous files and folders on it - not the ISO file itself.
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  7. Posts : 74
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       #17

    NavyLCDR said:
    You can put it in the sources folder if you want, but I would suggest keeping the exported drivers separately. I have mine in a folder with a descriptive name for the computer such as John-Desktop-Drivers.

    There is no "correct" folder for the exported drivers and they will not automatically be loaded during a clean install. To have them load automatically during install, you would need to extract the Windows image from the install.wim file, use DISM to add each individual driver to the extracted image, then recapture that image back into the install.wim file.

    What do you mean by make the ISO bootable? It takes a special boot file on a hard drive or USB flash drive to actually boot an ISO file. You typically do not boot an ISO file. You create a bootable USB flash drive by extracting (mounting) the files contained within the ISO file to the properly formatted USB flash drive. The format suggested for the USB flash drive is MBR partition type with a FAT32 partition marked as active. The usb flash drive should contain numerous files and folders on it - not the ISO file itself.
    NavyLCDR said:
    There is no "correct" folder for the exported drivers and they will not automatically be loaded during a clean install.
    Here is the problem I am trying to find a solution for. I just upgraded from Win 7 to 10 using using a download from MS that said it was a Win10 ISO. I had it downloaded to a USB drive. What I ended up with were 8 folders/files labeled from top to bottom:

    1.boot
    2. efi
    3. sources
    4.support
    5. autorun
    6. bootmgr
    7. bootmgr.efi
    8. Setup
    Over a year ago now, I tried to do a clean install with a legally purchased Win 10-64 Home Premium DVD. I got about 3 windows into the install and got an error message saying that the install could not continue because Windows could not find my system drivers. It was suggested by someone else that I download a Win 10 ISO from MS and slipstream my system drivers to the USB drive that resulted from the download. I don't know if this was correct info or not, What I'm trying to accomplish is getting my Win 7 system drivers on to the Win 10 ISO USB drive so that I can have an automatic clean install of Win 10 to my HD from the USB drive. I realize that I'm dangerous to a point in that I have some basic knowledge of PC operation but lack the finer points of how Windows works. Thanks for your understanding and the info you have given to try and help me. Please have patience!

    NavyLCDR said:
    The usb flash drive should contain numerous files and folders on it - not the ISO file itself.
    Just curious as to where the ISO file is.
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  8. Posts : 17,369
    Windows 11 Pro
       #18

    It sounds like you used Microsoft's Media Creation Tool (MCT) to create a USB flash drive directly. Therefore, the ISO file was just temporary. The MCT properly formatted the USB flash drive (it will be MBR partitioned with a FAT32 partition marked as active) and extracted the ISO file to the USB flash drive and then deleted the ISO file once the flash drive was created. (There probably was never an actual ISO file put together, but in essence that's what happened.)

    Your next step would be to test the USB flash drive. Boot your computer from it, select your languages, Click on Install now. If it asks you for a product key, click the link for I don't have a product key. If it asks you for the version, it sounds like you have Home. Accept the license agreement. Click the custom install Windows only option. The next screen should show you a list of drives and partitions. If you get that far, then you should be able to do a clean install with the USB flash drive the way it is. Now you can remove the USB flash drive and abort the install by clicking the red X in the upper left corner of the window and reboot your computer.

    I am now going camping in the woods and won't be back until Monday!
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  9. Posts : 4,091
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
       #19

    A iso file is a single file that has files on it, like a zip or rar does. It is used to directly burn a CD / DVD.
    You can use a iso file to extract the files on it and put them on a USB flash. On Win 7 you have to use 7zip (Download) to open / extract the files. On Win 10 you right click on the iso file and choose mount.

    To make a Win 10 USB flash disk boot able:
    - You need a 8G USB flash disk.
    - Open Explorer and format as Fat32
    - After mounting or opening the iso, copy all files and folders to the 8G USB flash disk.
    - At this point it is boot able as UEFI but not as Legacy. To make it boot able as Legacy:
    - Download https://www.partitionwizard.com/down.../pw11-free.exe
    - Install and run.
    - right click on the USB flash disk partition and set it as Active. Apply changes

    To Clean install Windows as Legacy - MBR (32 or 64bits) boot the USB flash disk as Legacy, go to install - Advanced - delete ALL partitions on the target disk and proceed.(Clean Install Windows 10)

    To Clean install Windows as UEFI - GPT (64bits only and you need to have a UEFI BIOS) boot the USB flash disk as UEFI , go to install - Advanced - delete ALL partitions on the target disk and proceed.(Clean Install Windows 10)
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  10. Posts : 74
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       #20

    NavyLCDR said:
    It sounds like you used Microsoft's Media Creation Tool (MCT) to create a USB flash drive directly. Therefore, the ISO file was just temporary. The MCT properly formatted the USB flash drive (it will be MBR partitioned with a FAT32 partition marked as active) and extracted the ISO file to the USB flash drive and then deleted the ISO file once the flash drive was created. (There probably was never an actual ISO file put together, but in essence that's what happened.)
    You are 100% correct. My next task is to slipstream my Win 7 drivers to the USB extracted files folder. I downloaded NT Lite and will use that program, Found a good tutorial for that. Hope you had a good time in the woods!

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    Megahertz said:
    A iso file is a single file that has files on it, like a zip or rar does. It is used to directly burn a CD / DVD.
    You can use a iso file to extract the files on it and put them on a USB flash. On Win 7 you have to use 7zip (Download) to open / extract the files. On Win 10 you right click on the iso file and choose mount.

    To make a Win 10 USB flash disk boot able:
    - You need a 8G USB flash disk.
    - Open Explorer and format as Fat32
    - After mounting or opening the iso, copy all files and folders to the 8G USB flash disk.
    - At this point it is boot able as UEFI but not as Legacy. To make it boot able as Legacy:
    - Download https://www.partitionwizard.com/down.../pw11-free.exe
    - Install and run.
    - right click on the USB flash disk partition and set it as Active. Apply changes

    To Clean install Windows as Legacy - MBR (32 or 64bits) boot the USB flash disk as Legacy, go to install - Advanced - delete ALL partitions on the target disk and proceed.(Clean Install Windows 10)

    To Clean install Windows as UEFI - GPT (64bits only and you need to have a UEFI BIOS) boot the USB flash disk as UEFI , go to install - Advanced - delete ALL partitions on the target disk and proceed.(Clean Install Windows 10)
    Thanks for all the good info. Much appreciated.
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