Boot manager problem - failure to boot - bcdedit error


  1. Posts : 521
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    Boot manager problem - failure to boot - bcdedit error


    The machine is MSI Titan GT80 SLI running Windows 10 1903.

    It has 4 SSD disks, two PCIe and 2 SATA. I am only concerned about the PCIe SSD (2280 format). Here is the layout, it's disk 0 and disk 1 that are relevant.



    Disk 0 boots just fine.
    I cloned the disk 0 to disk 1 using Macrium reflect. Then I created the BCDboot entry to create a multiboot operating system. It looks like this. Here is a view through EasyBCD:



    and here is the output of bcdedit:




    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {34222f3b-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    displayorder {d1256220-1323-11e9-8b85-806e6f6e6963}
    {bbb9cb4e-6dfd-11e9-9eee-806e6f6e6963}
    {bbb9cb4f-6dfd-11e9-9eee-806e6f6e6963}
    {bf1f5d80-a0fd-11e9-8b69-806e6f6e6963}
    {ef173654-a0f6-11e9-8b6b-806e6f6e6963}
    {d1df20ef-1342-11e9-a142-995979db796d}
    {current}
    {34222f43-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    {34222f46-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 9
    displaybootmenu Yes

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {d1df20ef-1342-11e9-a142-995979db796d}
    description Fedora
    custom:250000c2 0

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 10
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    recoverysequence {34222f3e-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    displaymessageoverride Recovery
    recoveryenabled Yes
    isolatedcontext Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \WINDOWS
    resumeobject {34222f3b-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {34222f43-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    device partition=L:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 10 -- 860 M.2
    locale en-US
    osdevice partition=L:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {edea4af9-af54-11e9-9f32-806e6f6e6963}

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {34222f46-2d98-11e9-9e5a-d8cb8aefea8e}
    device partition=G:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows G:
    locale en-US
    osdevice partition=G:
    systemroot \Windows


    After I did the clone, it stopped booting completely. Not even the primary drive is seen. Seems there is a conflict between two drives somehow. I went into BIOS and none of the 4 disks were seen. Furthermore when I hit F11, I could not even boot off the flash drive with Gparted to edit the partitions.

    When I removed the primary disk, I could boot into the cloned disk just fine, it's just that they don't work together. I did have to go into BIOS and adjust this. When I get a boot failure with 2 disks installed at the same time, I don't even see the option for Boot Option 1.. et cetera. When I remove either the primary or the clone disk, I get that option back and when I correct add Boot Option 1 pointing to the Samsung MZVxxxx, it boots correctly.




    So with 2 disks installed, I don't even see this:



    But this is the real question, why do I see this debian entry? I had previously used the disk for Debian install but since reused the disk for Windows clone and it should have retained none of the Linux stuff. The grub bootloader is still on the disk, or is that a conflict in NVRAM, grub is conflicting with bcdedit stuff?

    Disk 0 and Disk 1 are identical NVMe/PCIe disks with identical data on them but it can only boot off one if I nuke the EFI System Partition on the other disk, the 100MB sector. Then it boots. I re-run the Macrium Reflect clone/image process several times, copying *all* of the partitions, and always end up with the same result. I even formatted the disk and re-cloned it off primary, same result.
    I cannot multi-boot anymore, and the other disk is just a disk that can be used for data and nothing else. They both boot, just not together.
    How do I delete the Linux bootloader entry and where is it located?

    It used to multi-boot in that exact BCDEDIT configuration with these exact disks until I got Linux involved.
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 11
       #2

    because when you cloned the disk - you created an exact duplicate of the first disk...
    the BIOS now sees the same disk on two ports....
    you need to change the disk ID on one of the 2 disks
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  3. Posts : 1,524
    Win10 Pro
       #3

    Kyhi said:
    because when you cloned the disk - you created an exact duplicate of the first disk...
    the BIOS now sees the same disk on two ports....
    you need to change the disk ID on one of the 2 disks
    If you use Macrium to make the clone doesn’t it have the option to change the disk ID? I think I remember reading that somewhere.
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  4. Posts : 521
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       #4

    It used to work, worked for several years. The problem is the Grub bootloader is messing up the whole thing.

    and how does one change the disk ID on an SSD?
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  5. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #5

    dictum said:
    It used to work, worked for several years. The problem is the Grub bootloader is messing up the whole thing.
    and how does one change the disk ID on an SSD?
    Google is really handy. How to fix Disk Signature Collision problem in Windows 10
    How to Change the Disk Signature of a Drive Without Losing Existing Data or Reformatting (howtohaven.com)
    change disk id - Google Search
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  6. Posts : 521
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    I very clearly do not have a disk collusion, the system sees both disks just fine. It's just that it won't boot due to some BCDEDIT error.
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  7. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #7

    dictum said:
    I very clearly do not have a disk collusion, the system sees both disks just fine. It's just that it won't boot due to some BCDEDIT error.
    Everything that you need to know to fix this is in those links.
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  9. Posts : 521
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    I am unable to delete this entry. I run:

    bcdedit /delete {feccce7b-b0ea-11e9-9f43-806e6f6e6963}

    but upon the reboot, it comes back.

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {feccce7b-b0ea-11e9-9f43-806e6f6e6963}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume9
    path \EFI\DEBIAN\GRUBX64.EFI
    description debian
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  10. Posts : 521
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       #10

    This is what did it:

    How to Completely Uninstall Linux from a UEFI Windows-Linux Dual Boot in a Safe Way

    YouTube
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