Samsung SSD 860 EVO randomly freezing on Win 10

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  1. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
       #1

    Samsung SSD 860 EVO randomly freezing on Win 10


    hello fellas,

    I'm in desperate need of some advice from experts :P
    Google and some other forums can't help me with my problem, i've looked everywhere and its the 2nd time this problem exists.

    my problem:

    I have a SSD built into my computer, where win10 and some programms are saved on. this one is a samsung 840 evo. THIS is working perfectly fine.

    Then i bought another, bigger one (500gb), Samsung 860 Evo, which i use as an "external" drive, so i can use it for games and bigger programs.

    The first 860 evo i bought last year end of Summer, and it started having problems around christmas.
    It started randomly freezing the programs/games saved on there so as to get 2-3 seconds complete freezing action.
    At first i thought, the SSD is broken somehow. and before i'm trying to fix anything with software as to "make it worse", i just get the 2-year-warranty from amazon and get a new one.

    This one, also a 860 evo 500gb same build, was the first month perfectly running smooth and stable.
    til last week. Same problems arise again and it just randomly freezes.

    Attached are 2 Screenshots, the first (1) where i try to write something on the SSD, and the 2nd (2)while trying to installing a game (5gb size) and it just stops during the installing process due to this freeze.


    what i tried so far with this freeze:

    - stop superfetch / windows search
    -achi link power management - hipm/dipm : always active
    -i have no antivirus installed, so no need to change something there
    -firmware of the 860evo is also up-to-date

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    I hope u guys have some ideas as how to solve this issue :/
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  2. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #2

    Sounds like it is a external enclosure issue or possibly needing a powered USB hub. It is best to use a USB3 enclosure. I would swap the 840 for the 860.
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  3. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    bro67 said:
    Sounds like it is a external enclosure issue or possibly needing a powered USB hub. It is best to use a USB3 enclosure. I would swap the 840 for the 860.
    what exactly is an external enclosue issue? and a powered usb hub?

    maybe i was unclear in my statement in the post above.

    i use the ssd 860 "external" as in i still have it connected via SATA 3 inside my pc, but just not as boot-device, but as regular hard drive.


    and sorry for my english, its only my 2nd language
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  4. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #4

    That is not a external drive. Samsung will replace if those drives are failing. Most likely it is your 840evo that is failing. Swap the 860 for the 840.
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  5. Posts : 30,192
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #5

    What driver are you using.

    Saw a post where some have an issue with Samsung driver and recommend using MS canned driver.


    Ken
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  6. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    bro67 said:
    That is not a external drive. Samsung will replace if those drives are failing. Most likely it is your 840evo that is failing. Swap the 860 for the 840.
    ok so u mean that my 3-4 year old 840evo is failing, and therefor the samsung magician driver replaces that driver with the one for the 860 evo? and then i only see the 860 evo failing, but in reality it is the 840evo? ^^




    Caledon Ken said:
    What driver are you using.

    Saw a post where some have an issue with Samsung driver and recommend using MS canned driver.


    Ken
    i only installed the samsung magician with it, nothing else. maybe that helps :)


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  7. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #7

    Yes a drive can fail even at 3 to 4 years. To figure this out, swap the 860 with the 840 and use that one as your main drive. Samsung Magician is nothing more than a feel good tool and does not give you proper diagnostics. Your gut feeling is that you are having system problems. First step is isolating the problem by seeing if it is resolved by using another hard drive.
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  8. Posts : 12
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    thanks bro67,

    but how can i swap the 860 with the 840, if i have installed my whole windows on the 840, i cant start the pc then, can i? ^^

    and for the magician, can i just uninstall that tool and windows is using a driver automatically, or do i have to somehow uninstall the driver from magician via registry or something?
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  9. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #9

    You unplug the 840 from the SATA cable, leave the 860 plugged in. Then install Windows on the 860 and run it for a while to see if it has issues. If it does, then you start diagnosing motherboard/hard drive controller issues or power supply issues. If not, then you know that the 840 is what was giving you the headaches. You can use Macarum to clone the drive over to the 860 or EaseUS Todo Workstation.
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  10. Posts : 445
    Win 10 Pro 64
       #10

    You might want to change the SATA cable that the drives are using and plug the 860 into a different SATA port on the motherboard and see if the simplest fix solves your problem before going any further...
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