With prices like these - everybody should have SSD's for their OS

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  1. jimbo45's Avatar
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    With prices like these - everybody should have SSD's for their OS


    Hi folks
    with prices like these there's no excuse for people NOT to have SSD's these days for everything except large data volumes-- even the 1TB SSD's are relatively affordable now

    Here's from Amazon UK -- note in UK prices INCLUDE VAT / Sales tax unlike US sites - and if you export you can get tax rebate making it cheaper.

    Amazon.co.uk | Internal Solid State Drives

    (1 GBP = approx. USD 1.32, EUR 1.12)

    Forget that Black Friday nonsense -- especially if you don't come from or live in USA - better and easier deals online !!!.

    Cheers
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    Not when you work for peanuts just little bellow the U.S , a little right to Germany and down under as Africa your quote might sound offending :)
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    Hi there
    some of these prices are cheaper than the equivalent HDD's --- on these Forums people often suggest decent level pricey hardware -- I can't think why the post is in any way condescending -- I don't get offended if I'm looking at the specs for say a brand top of the line Mercedes with people saying excellent value for money even though I could never afford one in a million years (lottery winning excepted).

    Think there's a bit too much "If I can't afford it -- then it's wrong / evil etc etc" . In any case the amount of equipment I've donated to charities etc and help them set it up says to me I don't disregard people to whom this might be serious money. All technology comes at a price - my post was saying the price is now dropping rapidly and if you are in the market then it should be looked at.

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  4. AS185's Avatar
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    Well, they aren't expensive however the prices range differently as to accordance of each currency
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    AS185 said:
    Well, they aren't expensive however the prices range differently as to accordance of each currency
    Hi there
    presumably due to local taxation, import costs, profitabilty of the sellers and currency fluctuations.
    I still think a good deal if you are looking for these devices. Prices could rise later as some of the components ("Rare Earth" materials) come from China where commodity prices (i.e prices of raw materials) are rising.

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    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    presumably due to local taxation, import costs, profitabilty of the sellers and currency fluctuations.
    I still think a good deal if you are looking for these devices. Prices could rise later as some of the components ("Rare Earth" materials) come from China where commodity prices (i.e prices of raw materials) are rising.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Nope, $ per GB is still higher with SSDs than HDDs. Problem is that I can't find new HDDs with less than 500GB any more, not around here anyway and it's not exactly rich country.
    Price for making a 250GB HDD is practically same as for let's say 500GB while with SSDs it would mean adding another chip, adding up to 50% to the price. SSD prices dropped with advent of 3D memory chips. When single chips with 1TB or more become widely available, prices of larger SSDs will also drop but smaller SSDs will also become scarce.
    I remember when I was in charge of calculating production costs of some products our factory was producing, No matter how much of cost cutting I'd do, there's always some bottom end you can't go under. All sales department could do is to use them as "Loss leader" to entice buyers to also order other, more profitable (to us) and so recoup the losses.
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  7. jimbo45's Avatar
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    Hi there @CountMike

    You can still find loads of 2.5 inch laptop HDD's around with capacities from around 250GB to 1TB -- with SATA-->usb3 connections they make quite decent HDD's for backups / archives etc and these only cost pennies now !!!!

    If you have a local tip (re-cycling centre) you might be able to get some old discarded laptops as well --just remove the HDD's. The 7200 rpm ones are better but they all work. If you want them as internal devices plenty of 2.5-->3.5 mounting racks available - or add another sata / esata card --usually you can get 4 extra ports on those.

    I got a load of ex laptop HDD's by inserting SSD's for people who couldn't do it themselves !!! they all said I could keep the old disks.

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  8. CountMike's Avatar
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    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there @CountMike

    You can still find loads of 2.5 inch laptop HDD's around with capacities from around 250GB to 1TB -- with SATA-->usb3 connections they make quite decent HDD's for backups / archives etc and these only cost pennies now !!!!

    If you have a local tip (re-cycling centre) you might be able to get some old discarded laptops as well --just remove the HDD's. The 7200 rpm ones are better but they all work. If you want them as internal devices plenty of 2.5-->3.5 mounting racks available - or add another sata / esata card --usually you can get 4 extra ports on those.

    I got a load of ex laptop HDD's by inserting SSD's for people who couldn't do it themselves !!! they all said I could keep the old disks.

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    jimbo
    Gee if all those old HDDs were like one of last ones I salvaged from a laptop, no wonder. That was a slowest SATA disk I have ever seen. Even Linux took 5 minutes to boot.
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    Hi there @CountMike
    SATA ones -- marked 3.0Gb/s (theoretical of course) but that SATA connection is fine -- OK modern HDD's can do theoretically 6.0Gb/s or faster especially esata. You must have got the old IDE or PATA ones !!! OK running those is about as fast as using floppy disk drives --I agree but the sata ones esepcially 7200 RPM ones work just fine for ultra cheap storage.

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    The price per GB will always be higher for SSD/NVMe drives, than for HDD. The gap between the two has been getting narrower, but it's still roughly twice as much for SSD than HDD for the 500GB size. In my view, affordability is still an important consideration for people, but I tend to side with Jimbo. An SSD for the OS results in a huge performance increase, somewhere along the line of three to four times when compared to HDD. It really boils down to what level of performance one can afford.

    At the beginning of this year, I've started to build system with PCIe x4 NVMe drives, one for the OS and the other for data for small businesses. The price difference between the SSD and the PCIe x4 NVMe drives is non-existent for all practical purposes. The backup drive is still HDD, there's no real justification for getting an SSD for this purpose
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