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  1. mrje1's Avatar
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    Caledon Ken said: View Post
    Good luck.
    Since you know how to "mention" you can always alert us to your new threads.
    Hey Caledon Ken....Thank you very much. I haven't started a new thread, but if I do I will do so!
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Having a 1TB drive spinning for OS/programs seems to be a waste. I might go with a SSD at 500GB which will seriously improve system performance.

    Regardless, if you want to back it up how often do you think you will do this and how many versions do you want to keep? This will drive size of drive.

    So let’s say you have 150 GB and then and you take weekly Incrementals, say 10GB each. Each month might take 200GB. (Likely not going to be 10GB of changes per week assuming you clean up temporaries.)

    So a 1TB drive would let you go back in time five months. That is a long time not to notice your system is running right.

    Now your data, which I don’t understand and don’t need to. That said I’ll bet there is a great deal of static data.

    I would be installing my data drive inside my box so I can use Sata speeds to access and save. On this drive I would likely create two partitions, one with Window libraries and the other with static data.

    Then I would plan specific data backups for each. Dynamic data full monthly with weekly incrementals using similar math above, that is so much for full and so much for incrementals.

    Static data Full quarterly with weekly incrementals.

    For dynamic data I would use windows libraries and use the built in tools to redirect windows to this partition.
    You could even keep your sync program going for the dynamic data out to USB drive.

    Whenever you make a big data change you could do an out of cycle backup.

    If you truly don’t want to loose any data I would look at a cloud system and or taking a disk offsite. This is in addition to Macrium images kept at home. Myself I copy it to a 2.5 spinner and take offsite. I have two spinners, one at home to be copied too and one offsite. At one point I kept spinners at my brother house and I encrypted with Veracrypt (Truecrypt) (protects against loss and prying eyes)

    I would also say I’m not a fan of large drives, too much goes down the drain when one craps out. Big drives in Raid arrangements that allow rebuilds, perfect.
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  3. mrje1's Avatar
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    CaledonKen said: View Post
    Having a 1TB drive spinning for OS/programs seems to be a waste. Imight go with a SSD at 500GB which will seriously improve systemperformance.


    First, thank you very much Caledon Ken! Here is the thing with SSD, my system is just about a 10 years old and my motherboard only takes sata 1. I can only find sata 3 interface. Otherwise, I would get one as a internal drive. For an external, I would like to get a bigger size like 2tb or bigger and as you know the SSD are way too expensive.

    CaledonKen said: View Post
    Regardless, if you want to back it up how often do you think youwill do this and how many versions do you want to keep? This will drive size ofdrive.
    CaledonKen said: View Post
    So letís say youhave 150 GB and then and you take weekly Incrementals, say 10GB each. Eachmonth might take 200GB. (Likely not going to be 10GB of changes per weekassuming you clean up temporaries.)

    So a 1TB drive wouldlet you go back in time five months. That is a long time not to notice yoursystem is running right.
    Not sure if this is overkill, but I will be doing most likely incremental backups daily. Probably,a 2tb hard drive or higher would be my decision.

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    CaledonKen said: View Post
    Now your data, which I donít understand and donít need to. That said Iíll bet there is a great deal of static data.
    Static data again is like PDF's, txt files etc? I do have data that I don't use or change unless I work on a file etc. then it would change. I hope I am understanding correctly.

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    I would beinstalling my data drive inside my box so I can use Sata speeds to access andsave. On this drive I would likely create two partitions, one with Windowlibraries and the other with static data.

    Then I would planspecific data backups for each. Dynamic data full monthly with weeklyincrementals using similar math above, that is so much for full and so much forincrementals.

    Static data Fullquarterly with weekly incrementals.

    For dynamic data Iwould use windows libraries and use the built in tools to redirect windows tothis partition.
    You could even keepyour sync program going for the dynamic data out to USB drive.

    Whenever you make abig data change you could do an out of cycle backup.
    This data drive, will your OS be on there too? What are some examples of Window libraries?

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    CaledonKen said: View Post
    If you truly donítwant to loose any data I would look at a cloud system and or taking a diskoffsite. This is in addition to Macrium images kept at home. Myself I copy itto a 2.5 spinner and take offsite. I have two spinners, one at home to becopied too and one offsite. At one point I kept spinners at my brother houseand I encrypted with Veracrypt (Truecrypt) (protects against loss and pryingeyes)

    I would also say Iímnot a fan of large drives, too much goes down the drain when one craps out. Bigdrives in Raid arrangements that allow rebuilds, perfect.
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    Cloud system I would have to look into for the future. The raid thing is really something to look into, but can't at the moment. Why is this rebuild thing so good? Like incremental backups?

    What are some examples of offsite places to put it?
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    Guys ... Having Windows installed on a big hard drive has too many disadvantages. Whenever you need to reformatted and yeah I get it you can partition it but even still there times where you want to have a totally clean drive and the only way is if the whole drive gets done. Afterward, then you need to reload everything that you had on this big drive. It's so much easier having Windows installed on a smaller 120gb SSD drive than a larger drive. You have extra internal and external drives for everything else and most of the time you don't need to do anything to these drives unless you want to.
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    mrje1 said: View Post
    Static data again is like PDF's, txt files etc? I do have data that I don't use or change unless I work on a file etc. then it would change. I hope I am understanding correctly.
    Static means it's never changing like a picture hanging on the wall. Dynamic means it's always/frequently changing or refreshing. The two terms usually are referred to when the icons on the desktop seem to be changing and trying to explain the difference. I'd consider data files such as created by installed programs to be static, editing them wouldn't be a problem as the changes would be saved at some point.
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    Yes I'm using the terms the way Berton describes it.

    Vacation pictures from two years ago are static. You may look at them but you likely aren't editing. People rip DVD's, again this data doesn't change. You don't want to lose it but it is static.

    Windows libraries are the traditional Documents, Pictures, etc.

    Raid arrays general allow for a rebuild when a disk fails. Raid 0 doesn't, half the data is on one drive and half on the other. Raid 1 has the same data on both. When a drive fails you replace the drive and rebuild the array using its tools to copy data to second drive. Raids are a balance of speed and redundancy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

    Cloud solution are everywhere, gdrive, onedrive, Dropbox, iCloud. They all let you buy storage although at 1TB you would be into some money. Think Office 365 gives you 1TB with subscription and that is with Onedrive. Some clouds are purpose build like Carbonite. Cloud solution are impacted by network speed but they get your data away from a localize incident. I just copy and move spinner.

    I bought this to give myself more.

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...-028-_-Product
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    sn00ker said: View Post
    Guys ... Having Windows installed on a big hard drive has too many disadvantages. Whenever you need to reformatted and yeah I get it you can partition it but even still there times where you want to have a totally clean drive and the only way is if the whole drive gets done. Afterward, then you need to reload everything that you had on this big drive. It's so much easier having Windows installed on a smaller 120gb SSD drive than a larger drive. You have extra internal and external drives for everything else and most of the time you don't need to do anything to these drives unless you want to.
    Hey sn00ker,

    Thank you very much for your help again! My problem is that I have an older computer around 10 years old and it takes Sata 1, so until I get a new build I have to stick with regular drives. So far my clean installs have been fine with the 1tb internal drive so I don't think I will invest in a new smaller hard drive for it, but we'll see down the road.
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    Berton said: View Post
    Static means it's never changing like a picture hanging on the wall. Dynamic means it's always/frequently changing or refreshing. The two terms usually are referred to when the icons on the desktop seem to be changing and trying to explain the difference. I'd consider data files such as created by installed programs to be static, editing them wouldn't be a problem as the changes would be saved at some point.
    Thank you again Berton for your help and assistance. Now getting a better grasp of it. Thank you very much. The basic static term I kind of got, but applying to the computer world I was getting or I was confusing myself.

    So, to make sure here. If I were to work on a txt file and rewrite something and save it. Would that txt file be considered a static or dynamic?
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    mrje1 said: View Post
    Thank you again Berton for your help and assistance. Now getting a better grasp of it. Thank you very much. The basic static term I kind of got, but applying to the computer world I was getting or I was confusing myself.

    So, to make sure here. If I were to work on a txt file and rewrite something and save it. Would that txt file be considered a static or dynamic?
    50-50.
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    Caledon Ken said: View Post
    Yes I'm using the terms the way Berton describes it.

    Vacation pictures from two years ago are static. You may look at them but you likely aren't editing. People rip DVD's, again this data doesn't change. You don't want to lose it but it is static.

    Windows libraries are the traditional Documents, Pictures, etc.

    Raid arrays general allow for a rebuild when a disk fails. Raid 0 doesn't, half the data is on one drive and half on the other. Raid 1 has the same data on both. When a drive fails you replace the drive and rebuild the array using its tools to copy data to second drive. Raids are a balance of speed and redundancy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

    Cloud solution are everywhere, gdrive, onedrive, Dropbox, iCloud. They all let you buy storage although at 1TB you would be into some money. Think Office 365 gives you 1TB with subscription and that is with Onedrive. Some clouds are purpose build like Carbonite. Cloud solution are impacted by network speed but they get your data away from a localize incident. I just copy and move spinner.

    I bought this to give myself more.

    https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...-028-_-Product

    Thank you very much Caledon Ken again for your assistance! Thank you for the explanation.

    As mentioned to Berton, to make sure I am understanding about static or dynamic. If a txt file were to be rewritten inside and saved that would be considered, dynamic or static? My mind says dynamic because I made the change and saved it.
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