USB Flash Drive vs Portable External Hard drive for everyday use?

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  1. Posts : 30,192
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #91

    If you talk to most people in the IT field a true backup is something that goes offsite.

    In a total loss you can restore from a backup.
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  2. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #92

    Another idea. I have something like this ICY DOCK Tray-less 3 x 3.5 Module - FlexCage MB973SP-1B - Newegg.com

    In two spaces I have HDDS and bottom one is usually empty in which I insert a HDD destined for offline backup.
    Also similar but for 2.5" drives I keep SSDs in: ICY DOCK MB992SK-B Enterprise Full Metal 2 x 2.5 Device Bay - Retail - Newegg.com
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  3. Posts : 314
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
    Thread Starter
       #93

    CountMike said:
    Another idea. I have something like this ICY DOCK Tray-less 3 x 3.5 Module - FlexCage MB973SP-1B - Newegg.com

    In two spaces I have HDDS and bottom one is usually empty in which I insert a HDD destined for offline backup.
    Also similar but for 2.5" drives I keep SSDs in: ICY DOCK MB992SK-B Enterprise Full Metal 2 x 2.5 Device Bay - Retail - Newegg.com
    Thank you for sharing CountMike! What exact brand do you have? I will learn more about these methods.
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  4. Posts : 314
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
    Thread Starter
       #94

    Hey everyone,

    If you guys can give me some more details on these questions would help me in my decision process.

    When it comes to using docks or any methods with internal drives outside the case compared to inside the case, what is your intake on performance is it better inside a case or using a dock?

    Also, does the internal drive get hot? Let's say if you were to do a couple of hours of backups, wouldn't that be bad for the drive since there are no fans cooling it?

    Everyone who is using the internal drive method with docks etc. are the internal drives 5400 or 7200rpm's? This might determine if I will go with the external enclosed ones over the bare ones. I feel that if an internal drive is 5400 I might as well go with the enclosed WD MyBook or even Passport since I have been hearing that they use 5400 rpm drives.

    Thank you again for any insight on this. I appreciate it as always. Everyone here has been awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
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  5. Posts : 19,518
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #95

    Ok, just found boxes for them. One is LC Power LC-ADA-525-3x36swap LC-ADA-525-3x35-SWAP: LC - POWER
    And smaller one is Gamebird, some local make. BIOS in my MB has options to set any of 6 SATA ports as removable so no need to shut down to insert or change any non-OS drive. This setup takes some space in the case but dispenses with any external adapters and works at full speed SATA can provide. That's as fast as any internal drive.
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  6. Posts : 15,489
    Windows10
       #96

    vgkfan83 said:
    I bought a 3TB WD My Cloud drive several years ago. I told myself that I would never have to buy another drive, cuz i would never use it all. I was wrong. I have 144GB left.
    We said that when we got a 20MB (yes MB) hard drive the size of a small suitcase - lol.

    As drives get bigger, you need as much again to back stuff up.
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  7. Posts : 314
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
    Thread Starter
       #97

    CountMike said:
    Ok, just found boxes for them. One is LC Power LC-ADA-525-3x36swap LC-ADA-525-3x35-SWAP: LC - POWER
    And smaller one is Gamebird, some local make. BIOS in my MB has options to set any of 6 SATA ports as removable so no need to shut down to insert or change any non-OS drive. This setup takes some space in the case but dispenses with any external adapters and works at full speed SATA can provide. That's as fast as any internal drive.
    Thank you so much CountMike for sharing this. It is great to see the things people are using for their setup.

    I have to really digest and learn about this, but are these installed in the case or left on the desk or table etc.?
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  8. Posts : 30,192
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #98

    Usually inside the case is faster as you can use SATA ports.

    That said technology pushes on. My older MB has an eSata port. Today's MB are coming with ultra fast USB ports, although I haven't seen many enclosures to take advantage.

    http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/us...he-difference/

    Of course real world speeds aren't as advertised.

    Drives get warm, that is where good cases and good wiring comes in. Some people want / need small cases. My cases are big. I try to stack my HDD's with a gap. Air flows in the front of case and is exhausted. A constant clean flow of air should be enough. Of course there are fan profiles on a lot of MB and you can adjust.

    Never did a real test on 5400 vs 7200. Not that it would matter much using old USB technology and then I'm sure it depends on the type of data files being transferred. (not many large vs very many small). Something to Google.

    For the most part I want my backups to be fast but really for some I just start and walk away. Kinda like watch paint dry. I'll start early evening, have dinner, do thing, do something else and then come back to completed process.
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  9. Posts : 314
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
    Thread Starter
       #99

    Thank you again for the info!

    Caledon Ken said:
    For the most part I want my backups to be fast but really for some I just start and walk away. Kinda like watch paint dry. I'll start early evening, have dinner, do thing, do something else and then come back to completed process.
    That is a great thought to help in my decision process. It is a reminder that when I do my backups I am walking away doing something else.
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  10. Posts : 30,192
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #100

    Not to give the wrong impressions. Lots of backups can be done while you are using computer.

    I meet people and they say backups take so long. Then I say do you ever go to the store. Puzzled look on their face, I know it is safe to say start the backup and leave.

    All the backup software should have a notification in bright red, "You don't have to watch me".
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