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    New SSD optimization and leaving free space at end


    I just installed a new 1000GB ssd in my laptop (only drive) and it's working great. I am guessing this is where I should ask questions about optimization.

    Based on what I read on the web I have
    • Disabled indexing on all drives
    • disabled hibernate (powercfg -h off)
    • checked that trim is enabled
    • SATA controller is in AHCI mode in Device manager
    • disabled superfetch

    I hope that is all OK. But I have some questions.
    1. I was advised to modify my paging file. So I set it at a minimum of 400MB and max of 600MB. Is that reasonable?
    2. I read that I should leave some free space at the end of the SSD. But the entire drive was formatted when I cloned my previous drive. So, using the mini-tool I created a unallocated partition at the end of the drive, but it is formatted. Is that OK? Should it be unformatted and if so how do I unformat it?
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    3. Should I leave "optimization" on a weekly basis?

    Anything else I should do?
    Thanks.
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    Windows 10 knows how to configure SSDs and I don't bother with your mods. I even allow fast start up with a small hiberfil.sys since it does shave 5-10s off the cold boot time. I've never heard of leaving free space at the end of the drive but some SSD suppliers have a utility which reserves disk space for improved performance e.g. Samsung Magician offers Rapid Mode but I've never found a reason to use it. I generally use a system set paging file but do occasionally check trim has been run.
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    Curious said: View Post
    I just installed a new 1000GB ssd in my laptop (only drive) and it's working great. I am guessing this is where I should ask questions about optimization.

    Based on what I read on the web I have
    • Disabled indexing on all drives
    • disabled hibernate (powercfg -h off)
    • checked that trim is enabled
    • SATA controller is in AHCI mode in Device manager
    • disabled superfetch

    I hope that is all OK. But I have some questions.
    1. I was advised to modify my paging file. So I set it at a minimum of 400MB and max of 600MB. Is that reasonable?
    2. I read that I should leave some free space at the end of the SSD. But the entire drive was formatted when I cloned my previous drive. So, using the mini-tool I created a unallocated partition at the end of the drive, but it is formatted. Is that OK? Should it be unformatted and if so how do I unformat it?
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    3. Should I leave "optimization" on a weekly basis?

    Anything else I should do?
    Thanks.
    You obviously cloned from a smaller drive that didn't contain that last partition. It's too large to be a mandated maintenance partition, which SSD is that ? Some manufacturers have an utility (Samsung Magician)to adjust it to some more practical size, 10GB should be more tan enough.
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    CountMike said: View Post
    You obviously cloned from a smaller drive that didn't contain that last partition. It's too large to be a mandated maintenance partition, which SSD is that ? Some manufacturers have an utility (Samsung Magician)to adjust it to some more practical size, 10GB should be more tan enough.
    Actually I manually created that unallocated partition after reading about it. It was not there after cloning. I will get rid of it. There may be some leftover space I just don't see.
    Thanks.
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    Curious said: View Post
    Actually I manually created that unallocated partition after reading about it. It was not there after cloning. I will get rid of it. There may be some leftover space I just don't see.
    Thanks.
    Yes we used to do this its called overprovisioning it gives the SSD some space for garbage collection. It doesn't hurt anything I still keep a 10% over provisioning unallocated space on my SSD. It's not really needed nowadays since the SSD manufacturers have this space built into the SSD itself you just don't see it.
    I agree with the rest most other tweaks we used say 6 years ago are no longer needed. I have 32gb of RAM so I do limit my page file as if you leave windows to handle RAM It will create a 32gb reservation for Pagefile. Hibernation is required if you use a UPS as these use Hibernation to shut down your computer in a power loss situation this is important to me as I live in the deep south and any thunderstorm can knock out the power for an hour or so at any time day or night and I have 24 -7 computers running. To me, its crazy not to have your computers protected by a UPS and even a brownout or interruption of power can trash your Motherboard or components or OS very easily.
    Indexing is needed for searching.
    Basically what your reading about it, is what was true several generations ago during the development of SSD. and they don't pertain to current production SSD's. People that are trying to run an OS on a 128gb SSD or smaller is quite another story and Pagefile and Hibernation are things they need to eliminate to conserve space. I find 500GB SSD will handle and OS and all software and even some data and still stay under 50% usage easily. A 1TB should have no issues at all. My notebook is running a 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD for OS and programs and 1TB SATA SSD for DATA neither are anywhere near 50% usage.
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    I upgraded to Western Digital 250GB SSD back in 2016, originally I made sure to tackle all the tweets, but lately I just make sure to backup my data drive often, and not worry so much on the SSD writes, and such, Of course do have System on UPS device so hibernation does need to stay on so it can safely shutdown PC during power event.
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    AMDMan2016 said: View Post
    I upgraded to Western Digital 250GB SSD back in 2016, originally I made sure to tackle all the tweets, but lately I just make sure to backup my data drive often, and not worry so much on the SSD writes, and such, Of course do have System on UPS device so hibernation does need to stay on so it can safely shutdown PC during power event.
    Thank you all for your help and sharing your expertise. For users like me who only need detailed info like this once in a while,searching the internet has the problem of reading info that may now be outdated. So you guys are irreplaceable.
    I will turn hibernation back on.
    Thank you all again. (Can't do it on the interface I have on my phone).
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    BTW, how do you use a ups at all times when you are using a laptop you take from place to place?
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  9. bro67's Avatar
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    Mac OS Mojave
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    Curious said: View Post
    BTW, how do you use a ups at all times when you are using a laptop you take from place to place?
    Do believe that they are talking about their desktop.
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    bro67 said: View Post
    Do believe that they are talking about their desktop.
    Thought so too but since I was talking about a laptops I was willing to learn something new - even tho I too am retired from the grind.
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