Windows 10: I've made a Raid 10 for my PC...or have I? Help!

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  1.    19 Mar 2018 #1

    I've made a Raid 10 for my PC...or have I? Help!


    So previously I had a single 512GB SSD for my OS and a single 2TB mechanical HDD for my work, general storage, and anything like game installs. All my important programs are also on the SSD.

    I'm a Designer who does a lot of 3D work (modeling and rendering), and the 2TB drive has filled up pretty quickly as my freelance projects and personal projects grow. Since some of this work has quite a lot of monetary value, and the size of the files are getting quite big, I thought a raid would complement my setup. Yes, a raid isn't redundancy before you all say it! I have a 6TB external drive as well for backup. But the increase in redundancy and the increase in speed from RAID10 would really help my workflow, which can involve massive 3D renders and 4k footage. I bought 4 2TB Seagate drives. I'm also using software raid, I understand that's a discussion on it's own.

    I followed this guide here: https://www.pcgamer.com/how-set-raid-10-windows-8-and-l...

    First of all I had a problem with some of my brand new drives showing up as removable media, but after googling this turned out to be a feature and not an error. Some regedit fixed that. Next I found that using just Disk Management tool wouldn't work alone, and would take 8+ hours to format everything. That's when I found the guide.

    I followed it and now i've got something weird looking. Here: https://i.imgur.com/XVvpNJe.png

    The first part of the guide uses Windows 10 pooling tool to create to two RAID1 setups. These you can see I named Stripe 1 and Stripe 2. Then the guide says to use Disk Mangment to create a Raid 0 from those. Which you can see i've also done.

    However, the original Stripe1 and Stripe2 have not gone away, and even weird, as I move stuff onto the Raid mount, the space used does not change on either of them. Since I plan on moving my work from the old 2TB drive onto this RAID10, I want to be sure its setup right (as I will delete it off the old drive after).

    So have I done this right? Is my RAID10 actually setup? Is there anyway to check it's actually done it? Why are those stripes still there? Why is the size not changing? Does that matter? Anyway to get rid of them?

    Thanks in advance, this is all really delicate because losing work could cost me weeks of time and stuff I can't recreate pixel perfect, not to mention the clients I might lose if this Removed up.

    Someone on Reddit has since suggested I click "Delete Volume" on each stripe - and this had indeed unmounted them. However this wasn't an option when I was making it (both were "Unallocated"), and this still hasn't given me any confidence that my Raid is in effects.

    Disk Management loos like this: https://i.imgur.com/9QQQtBV.png

    Why are there two raids!? Why are there 4 drives listed separately? Have I actually just got a Raid0 by accident?
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  2.    20 Mar 2018 #2

    Bump please, i;m very confused.
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       20 Mar 2018 #3

    Hi,
    In 10 I believe the term is storage spaces not raid
    Just go to Manage storage spaces from this tutorial and there are some related tutorials at the bottom of it too
    Change Storage Save Locations in Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials
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  4.    20 Mar 2018 #4

    ThrashZone said: View Post
    Hi,
    In 10 I believe the term is storage spaces not raid
    Just go to Manage storage spaces from this tutorial and there are some related tutorials at the bottom of it too
    Change Storage Save Locations in Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials
    This only allows Raid0, Raid1, or Raid 5. I need Raid10!
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  5.    20 Mar 2018 #5

    Does your controller support RAID10? In my opinion and experience, you are going to have some potential issues trying to mix non-RAID drives and an array if you are using the onboard controller.

    Your best bet, since the system is booting properly, is to buy a RAID controller and attach the four Seagate drives. Then you set up the array outside of the OS, and it is seen as a single drive within Windows.
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  6.    20 Mar 2018 #6

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    Does your controller support RAID10? In my opinion and experience, you are going to have some potential issues trying to mix non-RAID drives and an array if you are using the onboard controller.

    Your best bet, since the system is booting properly, is to buy a RAID controller and attach the four Seagate drives. Then you set up the array outside of the OS, and it is seen as a single drive within Windows.
    I was a bit put off by using a hardware raid as they are harder to recover from if the controller has a problem. Software raids, especially done through Windows, seem must safer. Is this wrong?

    The problem is creating pools doesn't seem to be working.
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  7.    20 Mar 2018 #7

    It depends. Do you want to buy a replacement RAID controller or a replacement motherboard, if there is a failure?

    Either point is moot if you keep a proper backup routine. I recently did away with a NAS device in favor of a Windows Server with a RAID array. I bought a MegaRAID controller on eBay for $40, and it's a faster solution than any onboard software controller. I have a total of an 8TB RAID5 array, and an 8TB external drive to keep as a backup. A controller failure won't result in any loss of data for me.
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  8.    20 Mar 2018 #8

    DeaconFrost said: View Post
    It depends. Do you want to buy a replacement RAID controller or a replacement motherboard, if there is a failure?

    Either point is moot if you keep a proper backup routine. I recently did away with a NAS device in favor of a Windows Server with a RAID array. I bought a MegaRAID controller on eBay for $40, and it's a faster solution than any onboard software controller. I have a total of an 8TB RAID5 array, and an 8TB external drive to keep as a backup. A controller failure won't result in any loss of data for me.
    Ok, well I have four 2TB drives and an Asus X79 Deluxe. Is there anything specific I need to look for when buying a raid controller?
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  9.    20 Mar 2018 #9

    Here's a 2015 thread from Tomshardware.com (disclosure: I wrote for them from 2000 through 2012 or so, still write all the time for their spin-off site, TomsITPro.com) that recommends an LSI raid controller. I've read LOTS of other good info and end-user endorsements all over the Web. I'm a little puzzled that I can't find anything newer with recommendations, though...
    HTH,
    --Ed--
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  10.    20 Mar 2018 #10

    Using a controller has always been the preferred method of implementing RAID. Software RAID is poor mans RAID, used when you can't afford anything better. With the current availability of inexpensive RAID controllers there is little reason to use software RAID, certainly when reliability is a concern.
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