Windows 10: How to expand System Reserved partition to accept Windows 10 1709.

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  1. Posts : 18,497
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       20 Mar 2018 #21

    Did the Panther logs confirm that the problem was inadequate free space in the partition?
    If so could you post the portion from the log.
    It typically displays the amount of space that it was seeking, the amount of space found, and the deficiency.

    Using file explorer > this PC > C: > in the right upper corner search for: (by default they may be hidden > click view > check hidden items
    C:\Windows\Panther
    setuperr.log
    setupact.log
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  2. Posts : 395
    Windows 10 Pro 1803 17134.137
       20 Mar 2018 #22

    The elephant in the room is that 15gb recovery partition. After I found the OP's description were he purchased this system from, he might as well throw that recovery partition away. It contains (Who knows what version) windows 7. The reseller to W7 and did the Free upgrade to W10. For the OP to recover all the way back to W7 would take months to get back to 1709. He could easily delete that partition and expand the system reserved partition (Even with Disk Mgmt) and be happy.
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  3.    20 Mar 2018 #23

    storageman said: View Post
    The elephant in the room is that 15gb recovery partition. After I found the OP's description were he purchased this system from, he might as well throw that recovery partition away. It contains (Who knows what version) windows 7. The reseller to W7 and did the Free upgrade to W10. For the OP to recover all the way back to W7 would take months to get back to 1709. He could easily delete that partition and expand the system reserved partition (Even with Disk Mgmt) and be happy.
    Thanks for your explanation of a Recovery Partition. I now have Minitool Partitioning Program and will delete the System Reserved partition and expand System Reserved.
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  4.    20 Mar 2018 #24

    zbook said: View Post
    Did the Panther logs confirm that the problem was inadequate free space in the partition?
    If so could you post the portion from the log.
    It typically displays the amount of space that it was seeking, the amount of space found, and the deficiency.

    Using file explorer > this PC > C: > in the right upper corner search for: (by default they may be hidden > click view > check hidden items
    C:\Windows\Panther
    setuperr.log
    setupact.log
    I have found those logs but they are so large that I would not know how to find or determine that place where the amount of space that it was seeking, the amount of space found, or any deficiencies can be found. Nevertheless, I am posting them here in the hope that someone can make sense of them.
    https://www.dropbox.com/home/logs
    Last edited by dahermit; 20 Mar 2018 at 22:16.
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  5. Posts : 18,497
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       20 Mar 2018 #25

    When posting the logs please use one drive or drop box share links.
    See if you can find any of these logs from the past week:

    PANTHER logs
    C:\Windows\Panther
    setuperr.log
    setupact.log
    Setupmem.dmp
    setupapi.dev.log
    BlueBox.log
    Event logs (*.evtx)
    C:\$Windows.~BT\Sources\Rollback
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback\setupmem.dmp
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback\setupapi\setupapi.dev.log
    $Windows.~bt\Sources\Rollback*.evtx
    $Windows.~BT\Sources\Panther\UnattendGC
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  6.    21 Mar 2018 #26

    Addendum:
    Haveing gotten rid of the Recovery partition, combining it with the System partition and letting Windows Update Assistant attempt to download the update again, I have found that this A.M. it again failed with the error: Oxc1900200. Therefore, it is safe to assume that the problem with my computer is not caused by too many partitions.

    The problem must be something else.
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  7. Posts : 2,611
    Windows 10 Pro x64 1803 - 17134.5 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       21 Mar 2018 #27

    What I would do in this position is ...
    • Download a fresh copy of the .ISO file for the update.
    • Backup any data on the drive.
    • Completely clear the drive of all existing data and partitions.
    • Perform a fresh install to the blank disk.
    • Once the install is fully working, shrink the main partition and create a new data partition and restore the backed up data


    This procedure would remove any doubt of an issue with the existing installation or the update data, and also allow the installer to make whatever partitions it requires.

    Obviously the downside if this is that you will need to tune the system to your liking and re-install your applications.

    As we are a short time away from the release of the 1803 major feature update I would probably wait for that to be available before proceeding with anything, (just in case they move the goalposts again with regard to partitions)
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  8.    21 Mar 2018 #28

    Obviously the downside if this is that you will need to tune the system to your liking and re-install your applications.
    Some of my applications are no longer supported or available online for downloading. If I understand your suggested process, it means those applications/settings would be lost? If a doing a clean install means that I have to rebuild my applications and settings from scratch, I would rather just live with the problem...as much as it kills me that there is a fault in my system somewhere. I would rather kick the can down the road until the new update comes out...or still hope that someone here can come up with a fix for my system.
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  9. Posts : 2,611
    Windows 10 Pro x64 1803 - 17134.5 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       21 Mar 2018 #29

    Yes my process is a drastic one, and one that should not be needed. However, although the Windows Update process is far more reliable than it ever has been in the past it's still not perfect and every so often there is a need for a clean state approach. Slight issues that would be cleared by a fresh install remain in an updated install, and can then cause issues like yours

    This is Best applied with windows 10 at one of the twice yearly major updates xx03 or xx09, (the next 1803, is due shortly), but the best time is always when it suits you best.

    I would start looking for suitable applications to replace those you rely on that are no longer supported/available, and when you are happy with these bite the bullet and perform the full fresh install.

    The problem I see is that whilst the system is still usable it is only likely to get worse over time, not improve
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  10. Posts : 366
    trying to install win10
       21 Mar 2018 #30

    If you are going the clean install route, you could try Easeus transfer.
    The free version transfers only 2 programs.
    Free PC transfer/migration software - EaseUS Todo PCTrans Free
    If you look around, you may find there is a giveaway of the Pro version.
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