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  1. markm75
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    HID Compliant Game Controller prevent Monitor from sleeping 1709 win


    I recall this issue in the past, in a previous version of Windows 10.. but I now know with certainty it exists in my install of Win 10 x64..
    for those using the ch yoke (eclipse in my case) and pedals.. have you ran into this and ever found a solution? (from digging around it exists for other hid based hat switch controllers as well)

    If these two are plugged in, the screens will never time out and goto power save or screen saver mode. It appears this bug has returned.

    I cant figure a way around it for now, short of disabling them in the device manager. What would be nice is, if there was a way to pro-grammatically, via batch file.. disable the two after an idle period is reached.

    I've tried everything to get around it otherwise..
    different usb power save options in the power options, neither disabled or enabled works.. there is no power save tab for the devices themselves..

    its an issue with the HID portion.

    Any experiences out there?

    Thanks in advance
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  3. Kbird
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    Check out whether your USB HUB on the Motherboard have a newer Firmware available , I have had to update several asmedia and via based MBs and external Hubs, so they would sleep and wake properly in Win10.

    USB DEview is a good free app that can give you some information and another is UsbTreeView , also Free.

    the Plugables Website also has a number of pages on USB Hub Firmware Upgrades.

    Plugable USB 3.0 Hub Firmware History Updates - Plugable
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  4. markm75
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    Kbird said:
    Check out whether your USB HUB on the Motherboard have a newer Firmware available , I have had to update several asmedia and via based MBs and external Hubs, so they would sleep and wake properly in Win10.

    USB DEview is a good free app that can give you some information and another is UsbTreeView , also Free.

    the Plugables Website also has a number of pages on USB Hub Firmware Upgrades.

    Plugable USB 3.0 Hub Firmware History Updates - Plugable
    I'm kinda thinking its not firmware on the usb related.. i have the two devices going into a 5 port card (inateck).. i have also tried them into the motherboard ports, as well as external hubs.. all the same.

    If i dual boot into my test win 10 partition, i dont have this issue.. so either its the result of a later win 10 update or some weird combination of drivers causing the issue. I have also tried killing processes left and right to rule those out.

    My next test was to be a different profile, same hard drive image and go from there i guess.
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  6. Kbird
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    see this....

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ry-13-2018-upd
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  7. markm75
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    Kbird said:
    see this....

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ry-13-2018-upd
    Interesting, but i dont think this applies in my case.. i actually froze/disabled updates after around jan 1st.. the problem has been since at least then.. i decided to update again to see if it would fix things.. and yes i see this KB update, but since it existed prior to this, i'm sure its not the cause either.
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  8. markm75
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    I already knew i could disable the hid compliant game controller in device manager (not a solution for me).. so i installed a fresh windows on another partition with some minimal installs.. v1709 of windows.. no issues with the lcds going to sleep.Therefore i knew this is software/driver/services related..At one point on the problem windows partition, i went to reboot, it stalled for some reason, many things got killed.. suddenly the screens were powering off.So I know a process or service must be tying things up with those hid drivers.. i just cant figure out which.I could try msconfig and rule some things out, but i went through one by one killing processes.. no luck.. same deal with services.. hitting stop.. no luck.
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  9. markm75
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    Further testing.. logged into another profile.. with my main one open.. if i do this.. the monitor sleeps no issues.. which is a bit odd considering the main profile is still active along with the processes.
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  10. markm75
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    So far its looking like one of the 5 or 6 (or all) Nvidia processes are causing the issue and also preventing the pc from sleeping.. if i kill those (while under another profile), then come into my main profile everything works. Running 388.71 drivers (recently even did a clean install of them). Possibly specific to the geforce experience (after opening then closing even)
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  12. Kbird
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    The 388 series of Drivers have a number of weird issues , I suggest 382.05 for me it is as fast as any of the newer Drivers without the other issues. (or the very latest 391.01 which I am testing this week and seems ok.) 368.69 was also a good driver.

    Are you running CH Control Manager? have you tried uninstalling it if so? you said it only happens when the CH yoke and Pedals are plugged in right?

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  13. markm75
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    Kbird said:
    The 388 series of Drivers have a number of weird issues , I suggest 382.05 for me it is as fast as any of the newer Drivers without the other issues. (or the very latest 391.01 which I am testing this week and seems ok.) 368.69 was also a good driver.

    Are you running CH Control Manager? have you tried uninstalling it if so? you said it only happens when the CH yoke and Pedals are plugged in right?

    KB
    Well for vr 388. 71 was the ticket

    It turns out to definitely be the GeForce experience. There is a thread that ties that to the hid issue. Even the beta breaks sleep as well. I removed it and all is well
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