Windows 10: LF hints: Updating Samsung Raiisa R700 from Windows 7 to 10


  1. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 64 Pro
       07 Feb 2018 #1

    LF hints: Updating Samsung Raiisa R700 from Windows 7 to 10


    Hi there,

    I want to update one of my old Samsung Laptops (Samsung R700 Aura T5750 Raiisa (NPR700-AS05DE/SEG)) from it's native Windows 7 to 10. I looked around a little bit if it's possible at all - Samsungs FAQ, like always, no big help concerning this - and found some posts/infos (that seemed to be revoked), that Samsung advises strongly against doing so. Main reason: driver issues.

    So: Has anybody maybe tried this before me yet? Or has any advice what to look after / not to do, because otherwise problem X will come up?

    P.S.: Please stop telling me "Buy a new device!". I got several, I'm just interested in tuning up the old stuff and how much it will improve it's performance and if it'll perform better with 10 or 7. Otherwise I'll just store it into my vintage corner in the attic...
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  2.    07 Feb 2018 #2

    Why not just back it up and then try it?

    You can still use this tutorial to activate a clean install of Windows 10 if you save the Windows 7 activation first:
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    If it turns out 10 is unusable due to missing drivers then you can restore. I have different but (some of them older) PCs and they work OK. I think you'll be OK. Probably.

    Clean install of 10 will be better than upgrade as upgrade gets stuck when the process doesn't like your Video Driver/USB etc.

    Assuming you made a backup you can re-install your programs on 10, recreate your users and then just copy your data back.

    Worth a try :)
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  3. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       07 Feb 2018 #3

    lx07 said: View Post
    Why not just back it up and then try it?
    'Cause if someone comes up with the "Been there, waste of time!" answer, I'd save me the trouble.

    I try to do that if I won't get that and then come up with my story. And tyvm for the link!

    P.S.: I wanted to do a clean install, since I doubt, like you said, that it'll run well. But if Windows 10 won't find any supported drivers...
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  4.    07 Feb 2018 #4

    Perhaps someone else will know better - I don't have a Samsung unfortunately.

    If you try it I think you'll have more luck with clean install than upgrade for sure. The process simply doesn't check as much.

    Windows update (after clean install) will give you drivers for most things and then (in my experience) you'll spend hours looking for a trackpad driver. Or for your 3G modem. It is the small things that take the time.
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  5. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       07 Feb 2018 #5

    K, if it's just that: both are, after all those years, still in mint condition. So...
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       07 Feb 2018 #6

    Badabing said: View Post
    P.S.: Please stop telling me "Buy a new device!". I got several, I'm just interested in tuning up the old stuff and how much it will improve it's performance and if it'll perform better with 10 or 7. Otherwise I'll just store it into my vintage corner in the attic...
    I'm all for giving older machines a new lease of life. My test machine (System Two in 'My Computers' below) is a Samsung R519, original spec 1GB RAM, x86 Win7 Pro and Office 2007. To test it's capabilities with Windows 10, why not do what I did?

    First I used Windows 7's Backup & Restore to create a system image of the existing HDD. Then removed the original HDD, replaced with a spare and restore the system image to it. Then upgraded that to Windows 10. The Microsoft-supplied drivers seemed to work fine.

    General impression was that it ran at least as well with Win10 as it did with Win7. In fact, apps like Office appeared to open quicker, probably as a result of SuperFetch.

    I have been using it as a support/test machine for over a year now. It has multiple system images I can (and frequently do) restore, there's the original OEM Win7 and all versions of Win10 from 2015 RTM 1507 up to the latest 1709 (currently on build 16299.192).

    With the Fall Creators Update I finally ran into a problem with the installed RAM being only 1GB, so have now upgraded to 4GB. Windows and Office ran fine, but...

    Bree said:
    Repeated attempts to save a new system image would end with the error 'insufficient storage to compact image'. No matter how much I deleted from the destination partition I could not get it to work. What did work in the end was going back to a 16299.15 image and updating that directly to 16299.125.

    Subsequent investigation of the error code revealed that the "storage" it was short of was not in fact the disk space but memory. There are a few cases where a swapfile is not good enough, only real RAM will do. This was one of them.
    Multiple System Images using Backup & Restore - advice?
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  7. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       09 Feb 2018 #7

    Well, my feedback so far:

    Short: It worked w/o any problems.

    Long: It worked w/o any problems. I used a very old (10.0.10240.16384) Win10 image (to be sure) and even that recognized everything correctly. Even the trackpad. And the modem. It even did install the fall update correctly - something that one of my other devices still didn't achieve (Other post - maybe. Still working on it.) Performance is way better than w/ Win 7. Since it went through w/o any trouble, I can't write anything more.

    The only "problem" I encountered: due to the old hardware the fall update took hours till completion. Maybe next time I'd use the latest image.
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  8.    09 Feb 2018 #8

    That's good news - there are lots of us using old hardware here.

    Now to run disk cleanup - that will also take hours and use all your CPU - but it is worth it (and worth scheduling for when you're not doing anything else...).
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  9. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       09 Feb 2018 #9

    Already done. Maybe I wipe after that the whole thingy and start over again w/ an actual image. Atm I got a Win7/10 multi boot.

    Well, what's kinda annoying, but just a minor issue, that it doesn't automatically connect to my WLAN - and does take really long to do so (~40s) or just via troubleshooting.
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       09 Feb 2018 #10

    Badabing said: View Post
    It worked w/o any problems. I used a very old (10.0.10240.16384) Win10 image...
    ... It even did install the fall update correctly - something that one of my other devices still didn't achieve (Other post - maybe. Still working on it.) Performance is way better than w/ Win 7. Since it went through w/o any trouble, I can't write anything more.


    I would have gone straight to upgrading it with the latest Win10 install media, but glad to hear it works well. My experience with older hardware has also been that Win10 seems faster than the original OEM Win7.
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