Samsung SSD Firmware Warning - Re: Magician Downloads

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  1.    27 Jan 2018 #41

    Tnx but that doesn't show any changes in FW, only drivers. I have both 2.3 drivers ( only v2.2 works in W7 and without it, it's invisible) and Magician 5.2 and that works just fine. There are no fixes for Meltdown because of my AMD system and Spectre is not entirely fixed yet for this variant for AMD.
    Performance drop is not particularly visible as it's still at least 4 times faster than my other, SATA SSDs, to say nothing about "spinners". 250GB 960 Evo is actually a "*******" in Samsung's M.2 drives, it uses different memory chips than other ones, even the Pro version.
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  2.    27 Jan 2018 #42

    CountMike said: View Post
    I wasn't able to find just what that (failed) FW update was supposed to address. Notably, 250GB 960 Evo has 2 problems I hoped would be fixed with FW update. One is throttling at 60c and another falling performance when over 50% filled. It is also the only one that has heat problems. Thee last one I solved by installing heat spreader but performance fell by 30% at ~75% of capacity used.

    Hi there

    @CountMike

    60 deg C here in Iceland -- !!!!!! I think of all the computer problems you might have - overheating of components isn't likely to be a problem --at least for domestic users !!!.

    Down a Volcano testing for gases etc is another matter but for that type of research people tend to use those really rugged computers --SSD speed in these instances isn't important -- "Battleship Build" quality is more important than weight or speed - or even power consumption.
    If we ever got near to 60 deg C - people would think it definitely was the end of the World !!!!.

    I'd still go by what I said -->"If it ain't broke --don't fix it".

    Anyway enjoy rest of the weekend. !!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3.    27 Jan 2018 #43

    I "Think" the Firmware was mainly to support eDrive, which is part of Microsoft's Bit-Locker Technology, but most companies don't usually give the full details of Firmware issues , probably because it could open them to legal issues is my thinking or a PR disaster.

    From Sandisk:

    eDrive is a security storage specification defined by Microsoft for use with BitLocker. It is based on the TCG OPAL and IEEE 1667 specifications.


    Typically 128 and 250GB SSDs are slower than 500GB and Up SSDs , something to do with the way they work and needing "space to work" , at one time it was suggested to reserve upto 30% of the SSD for this "working" space, and is likely why they slow when getting full , with the 960 EVO I went to the 500GB model for that reason , always having had the smaller drives previously. My 960 wants 38GB (10% currently) for the "Over Provisioning" space , but I have never used it.

    Personally I have only seen a 5%-7% slow down since the Meltdown Patch but my Motherboard (X99) has not had a new Bios yet due to Reboot issues with Intel's Haswell and Broadwell Chipsets.


    KB.




    Last edited by Kbird; 27 Jan 2018 at 14:40.
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  4.    27 Jan 2018 #44

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    @CountMike

    60 deg C here in Iceland -- !!!!!! I think of all the computer problems you might have - overheating of components isn't likely to be a problem --at least for domestic users !!!.

    Down a Volcano testing for gases etc is another matter but for that type of research people tend to use those really rugged computers --SSD speed in these instances isn't important -- "Battleship Build" quality is more important than weight or speed - or even power consumption.
    If we ever got near to 60 deg C - people would think it definitely was the end of the World !!!!.

    I'd still go by what I said -->"If it ain't broke --don't fix it".

    Anyway enjoy rest of the weekend. !!

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Before I installed a cooler on it, it hit higher than 60c in benchmark programs and heavy workload like when doing insider updates so it does matter (in some instances), better safe than sorry.
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  5.    29 Jan 2018 #45

    Samsung has released the new Firmware for the 960 Pro Drives

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    UPDATED Jan 29th 2018
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    Samsung has released a new FW update for the 960 Pro. The new version is 4B6QCXP7.

    The update is rolling out in waves and you can update it
    through Magician (v5.2 only) when it prompts you.


    Let us know if you have any questions or need assistance updating the FW!

    Thank you!


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       30 Jan 2018 #46

    Thanks Kbird
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  7.    30 Jan 2018 #47

    My Magician now shows that there is an update available but doesn't say which one. If it's updated, does it loose all files on disk ?
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  8.    30 Jan 2018 #48

    CountMike said: View Post
    My Magician now shows that there is an update available but doesn't say which one. If it's updated, does it loose all files on disk ?
    Never has in the past Mike, but, make a image backup anyhow. :) I'm not going to update mine, as its working just fine. I'll wait and see what happens to the others that do. :)
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  9.    30 Jan 2018 #49

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Never has in the past Mike, but, make a image backup anyhow. :) I'm not going to update mine, as its working just fine. I'll wait and see what happens to the others that do. :)
    I make regular backups but still I'm gonna wait to see other's reactions. Just like i', waiting to see whats good with newest BIOS, I'm one version behind.
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  10.    30 Jan 2018 #50

    CountMike said: View Post
    My Magician now shows that there is an update available but doesn't say which one. If it's updated, does it loose all files on disk ?
    Not Supposed to lose any data but you can use Macrium to Image the Drive 1st. The new 4xxxx Series FW is for 960 Pro drives currently as far as I am aware. If you have the 960EVO it maybe the 3xxxx Series FW which many on Samsungs forums are having issues with , which is being Offered. Samsung so far is denying any issues with the EVO 3xxxx Firmware despite the Reports on the Forums and exactly the same issues as the Pro Drives.

    On a good Note the Pro 960 issues seem to be gone with the New 4xxxxx FW in the Reports I have seen.

    If you aren't sure of the FW No# or don't have Magician Installed you can also see it in Device Manager
    under Disk Drives> Samsung SSD xxxxxx > Details Tab and choose the Hardware IDs Property Option ,
    and the last 4 digits of the 1st line are the FW No#.

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