Windows 10: Samsung SSD Firmware Warning - Re: Magician Downloads

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  1. Saltgrass

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       New 25 Jan 2018 #31

    I wonder if Brink has replaced the Microsoft NVMe driver he seems to be using on the drive in his attachment?
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  3. Brink

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       New 25 Jan 2018 #32

    Still using the same firmware version since it came with it from the factory.

    I haven't noticed any issues, but I'm looking forward to the next release to be safe though.
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  4. Kbird

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       New 25 Jan 2018 #33

    Brink said: View Post
    Still using the same firmware version since it came with it from the factory.

    I haven't noticed any issues, but I'm looking forward to the next release to be safe though.
    He meant the Driver , your pic shows it using the Microsoft NVME Driver not the Samsung 2.3 Driver (1709) which is supposedly faster but has caused issues for some.....

    http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...Driver_2.3.exe
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  6. Brink

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       New 25 Jan 2018 #34

    Ah, ok. Still using the Microsoft NVME driver.
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  7. DeaconFrost

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       New 26 Jan 2018 #35

    I haven't encountered any issues using the Samsung driver for my 960 Pro.
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  8. EdTittel

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       New 26 Jan 2018 #36

    Nor me on my 950 Pro. Somebody over at Win-RAID has posted a modded Samsung nVME driver that works quite well, in fact. Here's a link for those who may be interested: Forum - Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers.
    Cheers!
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  9. Kbird

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       New 26 Jan 2018 #37

    EdTittel said: View Post
    Nor me on my 950 Pro. Somebody over at Win-RAID has posted a modded Samsung nVME driver that works quite well, in fact. Here's a link for those who may be interested: Forum - Recommended AHCI/RAID and NVMe Drivers.
    Cheers!--Ed--
    The modded Driver on WinRaid is the same for the 950/960 Drives as the Samsung 2.3 Driver found at Samsung ...the Mod allows Samsung PM981 NVMe OEM SSDs to work with it , eg the Drives in some Dell , HP and other OEM Computer builders that use these but they aren't supported directly by Samsung.

    FYI the issue is not with the DRIVER for these NVME SSDs , it is an issue with older versions of the Drive trying to use the latest Firmware recommended by Samsung. The new version is 3B7QCXE7
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  11. jimbo45

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       New 27 Jan 2018 #38

    Hi there

    Sorry to be "The 5th player in a string quartet" here but I come from the old Fashioned Engineering school that says "If it ain't broke --don't fix it'. !!!

    Unless you need a specific reason to upgrade the firmware -- for instance a new feature added - I invariably never bother and I can't say I've missed any performance etc.

    I've around 5 SSD's all in fairly regular use (all samsung EVO type 4 X 250 and 1 X 500 GB - this one only 2 months old ) and haven't had a problem with any of them - but as Count Mike says they are SATA so the firmware upgrade isn't applicable.

    I would still advise people only to make firmware updates if absolutely necessary -if the device is working properly leave it alone. !!!

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  12. CountMike

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       New 27 Jan 2018 #39

    I wasn't able to find just what that (failed) FW update was supposed to address. Notably, 250GB 960 Evo has 2 problems I hoped would be fixed with FW update. One is throttling at 60c and another falling performance when over 50% filled. It is also the only one that has heat problems. Thee last one I solved by installing heat spreader but performance fell by 30% at ~75% of capacity used.
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  13. Cliff S

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       New 27 Jan 2018 #40

    CountMike said: View Post
    I wasn't able to find just what that (failed) FW update was supposed to address. Notably, 250GB 960 Evo has 2 problems I hoped would be fixed with FW update. One is throttling at 60c and another falling performance when over 50% filled. It is also the only one that has heat problems. Thee last one I solved by installing heat spreader but performance fell by 30% at ~75% of capacity used.
    Mike because of the Spectre/Meltdown updates(both BIOS and Windows, and LINUX microcode updating) M.2's have had performance hits.

    I believe, if I remember correctly, the last Samsung M.2 FW updates had to do with the security side, specifically- Bit Locker.
    But that might have been the NVMe driver.

    Wait a sec:

    NVMe driver(see 2.3)
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    Latest Magician version 5.2
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    No data on firmware though, but to give a big ditto and affirm what @jimbo45 said above, this is from the PDF on how to upgrade the firmware for the M.2's:
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