Kbird said:
I contacted the usb hub manufacturer 1st as I thought it may help and they did have a newer Firmware , which actually didn't help immediately but upon finding out that , they helped me found a firmware update for the built in hub on my motherboard which did get everything working together.

In my search for info I came across the Plugable website , they sell all things USB , so had alot of information on HUBS, as many use the same Chipsets inside so their information is applicable to other manufacturers too.

Plugable USB 3.0 Hub Firmware History Updates - Plugable

I just bookmarked the hub firmware site but am a bit hesitant to upgrade; can you back off an upgrade safely like you can with a driver upgrade?