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  1.    23 Jun 2017 #1
    Join Date : Jun 2017
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    Windows 10

    Desktop Icons won't stay put...


    Good day, everyone. I'm having a very unique issue, at least, to me, with my Windows 10 machine. I have Win 10 Pro and my desktop will flash for a split second and all my icons will have moved to wherever they wish to be. I spend more time re-organizing my desktop than I do actually using the computer all of a sudden.

    I would love to give you some information about my computer, but the control panel won't open. I just spent three minutes waiting for that thing to open and all I did was stare at a solid blue window with a giant white gear in the middle. No control panel ever came up.

    Oh well. Win 10, no new updates recently since the creator's update (which was utterly useless for me), AMD 8-core CPU, 16 GB of RAM. Let's see, AMD R9 200 series video card, the drivers are all up to date. I do that manually since Win 10 doesn't give me the correct drivers for my system, which is custom black box, I just can't remember what all I put in it. Sorry.

    Anyway, hopefully someone can give me some help with this desktop issue. I tried on Microsoft's ask the community and no one ever responded to my plea for help. My desktop is also set to align to grid and show desktop icons. Why they would allow you to hide your desktop icons like that is beyond me. Anyway, the autoarrange is off so as far as I can tell, there is no reason for this issue to be happening, unless Win 10 is bugged yet again.
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  2.    23 Jun 2017 #2
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Forever West
    Posts : 3,926
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint

    First off, it's been my belief that Microsoft has been striving for a "clean desktop", very few or no icons on it. Secondly, the desktop is Dynamic, not Static like a picture on the wall. It is constantly being refreshed/redrawn while Windows is running, a number of things can affect it such as programs that have loaded into RAM or that are running in the background.
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  3.    23 Jun 2017 #3
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 4
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    So basically, there isn't a whole lot I can do about it except, maybe... Format the hard drive, make a daily back up and then as soon as I notice the icons moving around, remove the last installed program or go back to the backup from the day before...?
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  4.    23 Jun 2017 #4
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 124
    Windows 10.0.15063 (Version 1703) Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine79936 View Post
    So basically, there isn't a whole lot I can do about it except, maybe... Format the hard drive, make a daily back up and then as soon as I notice the icons moving around, remove the last installed program or go back to the backup from the day before...?
    Have you used any graphical or interface customizations with Windows 10?

    Have you added any new software recently, and how long has this issue been occurring for?

    More importantly, what changes have you made till this started occurring if you can recall anything?

    If we do System Restore, we lose the learning curve and process in figuring out the problem.
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  5.    23 Jun 2017 #5
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 4
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    No to customizations. No new software recently and the issue has been occurring for since the Creators Update. And I can't recall any changes. It's a work computer in question and I'm the IT guy that can't figure out what is going on. LOL.

    Alright. That's another issue we've been having. We upgraded the computer in question to Win 10 from Win 8.1 and the system restore was enabled, but when we go to do a system restore, 10 turns around and says that there are no restore points.
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  6.    23 Jun 2017 #6
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    Windows 10.0.15063 (Version 1703) Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine79936 View Post
    No to customizations. No new software recently and the issue has been occurring for since the Creators Update. And I can't recall any changes. It's a work computer in question and I'm the IT guy that can't figure out what is going on. LOL.

    Alright. That's another issue we've been having. We upgraded the computer in question to Win 10 from Win 8.1 and the system restore was enabled, but when we go to do a system restore, 10 turns around and says that there are no restore points.
    Will you please try this:

    Code:
    sfc /scannow
    Run As Administrator > cmd.exe

    Let me know what SFC pipes output please.

    This seems like 2 completely unrelated issues, and the system's components are nonfunctional.

    Also, please check that the VSS is operational.

    Go to services.msc and search for Volume Shadow Copy and see if it's disabled. Change it to manual if it is, and try creating a restore point via Control Panel > search, Create a restore point.
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  7.    23 Jun 2017 #7
    Join Date : Jun 2017
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    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Volume Shadow Copy was not running on any of our computers. Personal Computerss included. So, I manually started it for now. I'll work on automating VSS shortly. It's going to be a little while before I can run sfc on the computer in question. Sorry for the delay.
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  8.    24 Jun 2017 #8
    Join Date : Jun 2017
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    Windows 10.0.15063 (Version 1703) Pro 64-bit

    My fault. I didn't explain that VSS needs to be set to manual, not actively running, and we should test for creation of system restore points and their ability to be used and restore the system successfully - which you explain you have issues with. Is the issue with successful restore points that work? Or creating them?

    Also, this sounds like a problem with the IconCache.db for this specific machine which may need to be reset appropriately and I will provide instructions for this as soon as we attempt a system file checker scan.

    I will be posted!
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  9.    24 Jun 2017 #9
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    Maine
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    Windows10Pro 64Bit
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  10.    24 Jun 2017 #10
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    Windows 10.0.15063 (Version 1703) Pro 64-bit
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