Saving items with a USB drive rather than deleting them


  1. Posts : 152
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       #1

    Saving items with a USB drive rather than deleting them


    I noticed that pretty much all help pages suggest backing up settings and creating restore points before modifying your computer and thats a great suggestion but they don't suggest saving items, its always delete and then restore if you made a wrong choice. Why not save the items to a USB drive so you can return them if something gets awry?
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  2. Posts : 5,048
    Windows 10/11 Pro x64, Various Linux Builds, Networking, Storage, Cybersecurity Specialty.
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    Hi there -

    Sure you can! As a matter of fact I do it all the time.

    However, when you create a complete, restorable backup of your entire system it is the "whole enchilada" so to speak.
    A mirror image of your computer in case of a disaster.

    Just keep your USB drive "synced" with your latest files. Keep in mind that some USB drives fail so copies are good.

    Hope this helps.



    P.S. Restore Points don't always work the way you might think.

    How to use System Restore on Windows 10 | Windows Central
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  3. Posts : 16,956
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    Sapien 1 said:
    I noticed that pretty much all help pages suggest backing up settings and creating restore points before modifying your computer and thats a great suggestion but they don't suggest saving items, its always delete and then restore if you made a wrong choice. Why not save the items to a USB drive so you can return them if something gets awry?
    You are referring to two different things.
    - A "Restore point" saves Windows settings and restoring it can restore Windows to the state it was in when the Restore point was made [if it works, Restore points are notoriously unreliable]. There is no "item" to save to or restore from a USB that contains Windows settings.
    - Saving files to a USB is saving files. Not creating Restore points. There are lots of methods of doing so.

    Note that making a system image to an external drive is the most powerful backup you can make.
    - I make a new one every month to capture the latest state of play of my computer.
    - I back up my own files at least weekly. I backup many of them hourly. I backup some of them as soon as I amend them.
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    All the best,
    Denis



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  4. Posts : 152
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    Try3 said:
    You are referring to two different things.
    - A "Restore point" saves Windows settings and restoring it can restore Windows to the state it was in when the Restore point was made [if it works, Restore points are notoriously unreliable]. There is no "item" to save to or restore from a USB that contains Windows settings.
    - Saving files to a USB is saving files. Not creating Restore points. There are lots of methods of doing so.

    Note that making a system image to an external drive is the most powerful backup you can make.
    - I make a new one every month to capture the latest state of play of my computer.
    - I back up my own files at least weekly. I backup many of them hourly. I backup some of them as soon as I amend them.
    my ditty - File backup vs imaging, imaging utilities, backing up drivers [post #3] - TenForums

    All the best,
    Denis



    Welcome to TenForums.

    It's really worth making time to browse through the Tutorial index - there's a shortcut to it at the top of every page.
    - At the foot of the Tutorial index is a shortcut to download it as a spreadsheet.
    - I download a new copy each month.
    - By downloading it as a spreadsheet I can benefit from Excel's excellent filtering capabilities when I search for topics of interest.
    - Tutorials are also listed by category at Tutorials - there's also a shortcut to that at the top of every page.
    - Both tutorial lists are searchable.
    - You can also search for TenForumsTutorials in many general search engines, such as Google, by adding site:tenforums.com/tutorials after your search term. For example,
    taskbar toolbars site:tenforums.com/tutorials

    You can search TenForums using the search box in the top-right corner of all TenForums webpages or using Advanced Search - TenForums
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    Yes, I was mentioning two different things but maybe I wasn't explanatory enough.

    I meant that while editing and modifying your computer why not instead of deleting files, saving them to USB so that if you make the wrong tweak you wont need to return to a restore point, only replace the removed items
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  5. Posts : 16,956
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    Sapien 1 said:
    I meant that while editing and modifying your computer why not instead of deleting files, saving them to USB so that if you make the wrong tweak you wont need to return to a restore point, only replace the removed items
    And I tried to explain that your tweaks are not files and cannot, therefore, be copied to a USB stick or anything else.
    I think we must be talking at cross-purposes.

    All the best,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 15 May 2022 at 05:13.
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  6. Posts : 920
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    You can export individual registry settings and/ or whole hive branches to reg files that you can save elsewhere then, if wanting to revert, just merge the reg file to return the settings you changed to the original. This method is useful if for example you want to change default behaviour of certain apps or global Windows settings. You can also save backups of configuration files used by individual apps, such as game config files.
    So there are several things you can do to retain original settings and restore them if you mess up or don't like the results, and if you are just modifying one or two items at a time this method is fine, depending on how well you can organise the backups.
    When making broader changes to the behaviour of Windows, especially with driver changes and system level edits, it is so easy to break functionality of several components by modifying just one item or even brick your install irrecoverably, a system image is much more convenient to apply to get back to the starting point if/ when things go awry, having individual settings file backups is not much help if you don't have a working install to restore them to.
    I would think that as people get more experience with modifying/ tweaking Windows and apps they probably understand the importance of having a reliable method of getting back to a pre modified version in case of problems occurring.
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