Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks


  1. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 (64)
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    Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks


    Heya! I love this nifty imagery Classic Shell gave to start button and task bar. However... I want the normal Windows 10 menu back without having to click the "Start Menu (Windows)" button. Am I missing something in the setting where you can turn off the Classic Shell menu? I can't find a setting for that anywhere and am now guessing that it necessitates uninstalling the program.

    If uninstalling is the only way to use the normal Windows 10 menu again, is there another program which will let me use these awesome images as my start-button, and task-bar?

    Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks-2021-03-18-16_44_09-.jpg

    Perhaps, is there a program where the top of the start-button image, as it pops-up, doesn't get cut off?

    Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks-2021-03-18-16_50_58-.jpg
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  2. Posts : 34,880
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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    Hi, you have at least a couple of ways:
    Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks-1.png

    Bottom option - simply hover to open Win 10's start menu.

    I also have Win key + SHIFT set to open Win 10's standard menu.

    Start button in Classic Shell- you have to use an appropriate image. I pinched the Win 7 orb (with glow effect) from a theme a long time back:
    Classic Shell How2 NOT Override Win10 Menu? Keep Fun Image Start/Tasks-untitled.png
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  3. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 (64)
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    @dalchina Guru: Oh wow! That's amazing. It's like, at the top, in bold ...and I missed it.

    Stuped tab title. That's right, "blame the tools, not the man".
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  4. Posts : 34,880
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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    No problem.. too many options .. can be really confusing.. but at least Open Shell has a search option- e.g. try 'hover'
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  5. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 (64)
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    You know the Windows 10 menu does search too? It's invisible until you start typing. Is that what you mean? It's nice not having to click in the search box first.

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    Oh... I get it, you mean like a Shell features search.. I get you.
    Yeah, that's good.

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    I like your hover option. It allows me to have both Classic Menu and the Win10. I can't yet imagine why I would ever need both, but it's nice to know that they're there. Although... if "Left Click opens:" is set to "Start Menu in Desktop and Start Screen in Metro" it seems to glitch on hover - providing a flash of Win10's menu and then nothing.

    Question: Even with "Hover opens:" set to "Nothing", the Left Click: "Start Menu in Desktop and Start Screen in Metro" option doesn't change my left click result.

    I must not know what the words mean. I thought Metro was a Classic Shell skin. Do you know what that does? I can't figure it out. What's the metro app? {Googleing} Oh, its the giant menu. -- The store right? I don't think I have that. I deleted AppDatas. --maybe I'm the only one with a glitch. I guess I won't be needing that option.

    All the articles said I'd need it to allow setting a password again. ..."Sign in options" wouldn't load... and Windows "Settings >> Sign In" said "You'll need a new app to open this ms-cxh link".
    You can't get a new app if you don't have the Microsoft Store anymore, and you can't get the store if you don't have old AppData file.
    "Reset windows!" they said. I couldn't do that to myself, it would undo all this hard work of extricating their invasiveness.
    So... Long story nearly done, I tried command prompt to reactive a password, and that didn't help (but it said it did). The solution was found in "Control +Alt +Delete >> Change a password".
    It feels glorious to have a password again. I loved that click through login screen, but it sure made me feel like I'd be screwed if I got robbed on the bus.
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  6. Posts : 34,880
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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    I hope you didn't delete the C:\users\...name..\appdata folder...
    And there's no need to hack the O/S and eliminate the Store. Just ignore it if you don't use it.
    Random hacks can - er- store up trouble.

    There's a Metro skin for Open Shell- just one of several that changes its appearance.
    I prefer Smoked Glass, classic 2 columns, expanding Control Panel, and Apps included.
    And expanding in multiple columns, as I have a largish start menu.

    Note: password protection for your PC is trivial- for example, if someone took the disk out of your PC, put it in caddy, or booted your PC from a live boot disk, they can access all your non-encrypted data.

    Open Shell does everything - and better with its configurable search box. I wouldn't use Win 10's start menu- it completely fails to represent a categorised start menu where shortcuts are in your own folders 2 levels deep, like any Win 10 style menu around.
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  7. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 (64)
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    dalchina said:
    I hope you didn't delete the C:\users\...name..\appdata folder...
    And there's no need to hack the O/S and eliminate the Store. Just ignore it if you don't use it.
    Random hacks can - er- store up trouble.
    Not the whole folder, just the stuff I didn't like. There were files from old uninstalled programs, I even a found a potential security risk. Then I got rid of the programs from companies I don't like. Anything I didn't think I needed, I deleted.
    When the store went away, I liked that. I didn't even know I was doing it.
    I was only trying to rid myself of the invasive office (it had a habit of opening itself for no reason every few months), and a few other apps I'd never wanted and wanted to see even less. It's hard to ignore what's in front of my eyes every time I click to find something I want. It's like having advertisements on your bookshelf, in your cupboard, or in your closet. I opened my closet to get some under where and it said "Hey do you want this!!?" and I said "No! Leave me alone! I didn't pay for this so you could do that to me!" When I realized it was like an alien invasion with roots so deep it couldn't be anything but a being of malevolent intent - I decided it had to go. Chkd Chk BAM, no more monster in my closet. They'll have to use the front door if they want my DEETs.
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  8. Posts : 34,880
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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    Random hacking and deleting can just store up trouble for you.

    Not even disk imaging will protect you properly from that as time goes on.

    There are proper clean up tools to remove unwanted things.
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  9. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 (64)
    Thread Starter
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    Yea, still trying to figure this one out:



    How do I get ride of these?

    I made a thread for it just now: Remove Windows 10 Blank Menu Items from Deleted AppData
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