A few problems concerning CTRL+ALT+DEL & ALT+F4.

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    Paul Black said:
    Hello @W10 Tweaker,
    Anyway, I changed the default from 16 [Sleep], to 4 [Restart], and Rebooted, No change!


    I was thinking about adding one of the missing options to see if it became visible in the pull-down menu. In post #7, you indicated that both Sleep and Restart were available options already.
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    W10 Tweaker said:
    I was thinking about adding one of the missing options to see if it became visible in the pull-down menu. In post #7, you indicated that both Sleep and Restart were available options already.
    Yes, I have Sleep, Shut Down, and Restart!
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    The thing is, I do have ALL the options available in my Customised TooBar, via Shortcuts etc, but I really want to have them available from the ALF-F4 Menu. That is why I initially Disabled [but I have re-enabled them now] them. Ideally, I would like to Disable the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu altogether as I only have Cancel on that screen anyway now, and Disable the Start Menu Power Options as I did before. Then the two options I have are the ALT+F4 Menu and my Customised ToolBar!
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       #34

    Paul Black said:
    The thing is, I do have ALL the options available in my Customised TooBar, via Shortcuts etc, but I really want to have them available from the ALF-F4 Menu. That is why I initially Disabled [but I have re-enabled them now] them. Ideally, I would like to Disable the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu altogether as I only have Cancel on that screen anyway now, and Disable the Start Menu Power Options as I did before. Then the two options I have are the ALT+F4 Menu and my Customised ToolBar!

    So if I understand correctly when the options were removed in the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu, they also disappeared in the ALT+F4 Menu. Is that correct?

    Did you attempt to remove them and then change the default with Sergey's tweak to see if that added the missing menu item?
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    W10 Tweaker said:
    So if I understand correctly when the options were removed in the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu, they also disappeared in the ALT+F4 Menu. Is that correct?
    I will have to look at my notes tomorrow and get back to you on that!

    W10 Tweaker said:
    Did you attempt to remove them and then change the default with Sergey's tweak to see if that added the missing menu item?[/B]
    I have just loaded and gone through Winaero Tweaker and everything seems to be OK.

    I am going to have to call it a night and resume again tomorrow!
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       #36

    I just had a thought, seeing this is a Customised ISO Installation, and I imaged the OS directly after Installation, and I am using this as a test OS until I get everything working the way I want it [ready to install properly and then customise and tweak it accordingly], I will re-image it tomorrow to see if ALL the Power Options are there and available. This way, I can see if it is something caused during the customisation, or if it is something caused by the REG tweaking or post customisation.
    I will report back tomorrow.

    Thanks everyone for your contributions and help, it is appreciated!
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    Paul Black said:
    I just had a thought, seeing this is a Customised ISO Installation, and I imaged the OS directly after Installation, and I am using this as a test OS until I get everything working the way I want it [ready to install properly and then customise and tweak it accordingly], I will re-image it tomorrow to see if ALL the Power Options are there and available. This way, I can see if it is something caused during the customisation, or if it is something caused by the REG tweaking or post customisation.
    I will report back tomorrow.

    Thanks everyone for your contributions and help, it is appreciated!
    You're welcome, sir.
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       #38

    The options you desire are not showing in the Shutdown dialog because earlier you said you removed them from the power menu!

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       #39

    Well, here goes!

    I re-imaged the OS back to the customised ISO installation.

    [1] There were NO options available in the Start Menu Power Options.
    [2] There were NO options in the CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu.
    [2] The Power Button on the CTRL+ALT+DEL screen was NOT there.
    [4] The ALT+F4 gave me the ERROR message I posted previously.

    So knowing that it was a change I made during the customisation at least I knew where to start.

    Now I wasn't going to accept the fact that although I created a customised ISO installation Win 10 could NOT re-establish this feature. I knew that it had to be something to do with the Power Configurations I made during customisation so I started there.

    I first ran . . . powercfg -restoredefaultschemes and Rebooted.
    I then ran . . . secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\inf\defltbase.inf /db defltbase.sdb /verbose and Rebooted.

    Neither of these had any affect!

    I then investigated the Local Group Policy and found the solution [yes, I did say I found the solution, WELL SORT OF!].

    The answer is in the . . .

    Local Computer Policy\Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar\Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down, Restart, Sleep, and Hibernate commands\Enabled.

    The affect this has is . . .

    [1] The Start Menu Power Options show There are currently no power options available.
    [2] The CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu does NOT show ANY of the Power Options.
    [3] The CTRL+ALT+DEL Menu does NOT have the Power Button in the bottom right-hand corner.
    [4] The ALT+F4 Menu has Sleep, Shut Down, and Restart.

    Now I know that the ALT+F4 Menu is missing the Hibernate, but I have Hibernate set to Reduced anyway so Sleep surfices for this.

    Now if you ALSO change . . .

    Computer Policy\User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar\Remove and prevent access tothe Shut Down, Restart, Sleep, and Hibernate commands\Disabled

    . . . it shows ALL the menus and the Sleep, Restart, and Shut Down.

    So this part of it is RESOLVED!

    QUESTION:

    I also have the Administrator account enabled on my OS.

    Now the way the above is setup has had an impact on the Start Menu User section. By this, I mean whereas before, I used to be able to click on my user icon and then click on Administrator, that option is NO longer available, NOT a problem in itself. In order to Login to the Administrator, I now have to Sign-Out and then Sign-In as Administrator, thereby losing all my open programs etc.

    So my question is, how can I add Switch User to the ALT+F4 Menu ONLY without affecting or adding them to the other menus and therefore making them visible again please?

    Once this is resolved my problem is solved.

    Thanks in advance.

    EDIT:

    To help explain this a bit clearer, it is like this Tutorial . . .

    Enable or Disable Fast User Switching in Windows 10

    BUT, I ONLY want it added to . . .
    A few problems concerning CTRL+ALT+DEL & ALT+F4.-image.png
    . . . and NOT the other sections [via Local Group Policy I suspect!].
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       #40

    Here are two screenshots to show it worked . . .

    A few problems concerning CTRL+ALT+DEL & ALT+F4.-image.png
    A few problems concerning CTRL+ALT+DEL & ALT+F4.-image.png

    I can't add the CTRL-ALT-DEL screenshot unfortunately, but there is ONLY the Cancel button and the Ease Of Access in the right-hand bottom of the screen!
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