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@Wynona
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simrick said:

You guys FAILED on your Sherlock Holmes assignment from me:

BLENDER

Thanks for clarifying that! My fault that we got it wrong; as I have never heard of the Blender, I assumed that you meant Expression Blend or as it is called today, Microsoft Blend for Visual Studio.

Looks interesting, I will test that.

simrick said:

On another subject: if MS go to a subscription-based OS, I will completely change over to Linux and never look back. This subscription stuff is for the birds.

In this our opinion differs drastically. If it ever comes possible to subscribe Windows as Office 365 today, I will be among the first to subscribe. I like the idea. According to the MS we are halfway there, the Insider program will continue and remaining in the Fast Ring my Windows will always have the latest build, which for me would be and is one of the main benefits in subscribe model.

If this was an alternative when the time comes that the free upgrade offer is over and I need to buy Windows 10 for a new PC, I would without a doubt choose a subscription model.

simrick said:

As far as the scheduling for these chats, I think the "second" one (middle of the day) is probably the best. I also think that, perhaps if we had a loose topic or list of subjects that we intend to discuss ahead of time, perhaps that might spark the interest of additional prospective participants, and also help us to prepare?

Yeah. Part 1 yesterday was the last early session, it simply has too little interest. Next time I suggest we go back to one session model as we did the very first time. My suggestion is to start at 17:00 (5 PM) UTC which is 19:00 (7 PM) CEST, 10 AM PDT, 11 AM MDT, 12 PM CDT, 1 PM EDT.

simrick said:

And now I want to know what it is I missed, when Kari put the music into the live stream, so you could speak privately! LOL

Isn't that obvious? We talked about you :)

Kari said:

Isn't that obvious? We talked about you :)

HA! and I thought they were instructing you on how to install and customize Firefox!

Kari said:

If this was an alternative when the time comes that the free upgrade offer is over and I need to buy Windows 10 for a new PC, I would without a doubt choose a subscription model.

Speaking of buying new computers with W10 on them, has there been any discussion on this?
[This is not good news. People who dual boot other operating systems need to be made aware of this.]

https://debianhelp.wordpress.com/201...rusty-tahr-os/



Hardware that sports the “Designed for Windows 8″ logo requires machines to support UEFI Secure Boot. When the feature is enabled, the core software components used to boot the machine are verified for correct cryptographic signatures, or the system refuses to boot. This is a desirable security feature, because it protects from malware sneaking into the boot process. However, it has an issue for alternative operating systems, because it’s likely they won’t have a signature that Secure Boot will authorize. No worries, because Microsoft also mandated that every system must have a UEFI configuration setting to turn the protection off, allowing booting other operating systems. This situation may now change. At its WinHEC hardware conference in Shenzhen, China, Microsoft said the setting to allow Secure Boot to be turned off will become optional when Windows 10 arrives. Hardware can be “Designed for Windows 10,” and offer no way to opt out of the Secure Boot lock down. The choice to provide the setting (or not) will be up to the original equipment manufacturer.


This scenario would be a deal-killer for me - at least, it would be a deal-killer in the future if I buy a W10 computer and have to research which OEMs offer the UEFI-off-switch. Any OEM which did not offer the UEFI kill switch would be off my list of possible sources. And, not sure how easy that would be to research...

Wynona said:

It's all been deleted now. Thanks for alerting me.

LOL!!! okay......

Wynona said:

Back to building my own systems . . . I wish I'd built when I got this one, but I didn't. Guess we'll have to be sure to get a motherboard that isn't "Designed for Windows 10"!

More and more, Microsoft wants to protect us from ourselves and doesn't understand our right to compute the way we need and want to. Maybe we should start a petition. :)

I'm in! Where do I sign?

Building your own machine is not something I could do. My machines come with the OS already installed.
The furthest I've gone inside a machine is the install another 4GB stick into this Notebook.